Time: Sun, 03-Oct-1999 17:21:58 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.138

This week I had to plug my ears during Chris' cat torture 
monologue, which I think I liked even worse than Dan's tooth 
speech. Cuz it was about torturing a cat. The rest of Chris' 
speech was pretty funny. 

Wow. There were a lot of serious pieces. Odd. Who woulda guessed?

I thought the show overall was OK. There were lots of "funny 
enough" pieces, but not many great ones. And there were several 
I didn't care for at all.

Juggling Brad was a more than welcome re-addition. I was glad to 
see him again. I don't think juggling Brad is capable of bombing.

Let's see... what else... I can't remember most of the stuff. I 
liked Neil's piece, I liked Arlen's piece, I liked Nick's poem, 
I liked Al's poem and was impressed by the startling contrast of 
that piece compared to everything else Al has done. I liked my 
piece. You know, the one about pooping? I thought Dan and Kyle 
did a great job. I think it was much funnier to see them talk 
about poop than to see me and Chris, maybe because everybody's 
used to seeing me and Chris talk about poop.

Didn't care for the job interview piece with the dwarf and the 
zany movie titles. Reminded me too much of SNL (only more 
swears). I also was disappointed with the Wicca piece. Believe 
it or not, "Wicca" and "Stereotypical Devil Cult" are not 
interchangeable terms. Maybe that was part of the joke, I don't 
know.
  
I enjoyed the egg man's piece, but not for the reasons I was 
supposed to. I giggled with delight as the egg inards splattered 
and dripped all over the stage. (Though the destruction of 3 
whole cartons of eggs was a bit depressing) It brought me back 
to a wonderful, creamy piece from over a year ago... And 
speaking of that piece, my buggy Chris gotted banned for 3 weeks 
when HE messed up the stage! I betcha this fellow won't see that 
kind of disciplinary action. What is that? Of course, since the 
Chris ban was bullshit, it wouldn't be right to suggest the same 
punishment for this guy, just for the sake of consistency. So I 
figure Chris just deserves compensation. I think Chris should be 
allowed to damage the space and/or its occupants to his heart's 
content for three consecutive weeks of No Shame. And then we'll 
call it square.

-River 

Time: Sun, 03-Oct-1999 18:23:29 GMT     IP: 24.4.252.113

:speaking of that piece, my buggy Chris gotted banned for 3 weeks 
:when HE messed up the stage! I betcha this fellow won't see that 
:kind of disciplinary action.

I think this guy checked with the board beforehand (which 
somewhat gets him off the hook since they let him do it), but he 
still did nowhere enough to protect the stage.  Bleah.  Of course, 
the other main difference is that right now the floor in Theatre B 
looks like crap anyway so I'm betting no other show is 
particularly uptight about its condition.  All in the timing I 
guess.

Of course, I know not what Those In Charge may or may not be 
intending to do about it.  Besides having mopped it up.

The other thing is, No Shame got put on probation when the jelly 
thing happened on Mabie stage, with the threat that one more 
incident of "damage" that semester would result (as I recall) in 
No Shame being kicked out of the Theater Building.  In that light, 
it's hard for me to let go and laugh when stuff gets spilled, 
since I like having a No Shame to go to on Friday nights.  
Regardless of how (un)reasonable such sanctions might seem to you 
or I or the board, we would all pay the price if the department 
disowned the event so the board has to take a hard-ass stand when 
No Shame is on the line.

Time: Sun, 03-Oct-1999 20:48:21 GMT     IP: 24.4.252.113

I gotta say, it's not too often that two pieces in a night of No 
Shame actually get the "oh my god, I can't believe they're doing 
that" reaction out of me.  I mean, after a while you get 
used to a lot of the things people throw out there to get 
a rise out of the audience.  However, artistic merits aside, the 
piece where Aaron Galbraith serves as a prop and the piece where 
Kehry Lane did the strip-tease at his father were definitely in 
pretty startling territory.  Heh.  Nudity AND strip-teases have 
happened before at No Shame, but context and presentation can 
make old things brand spankin' new.

I also liked the new twist on the Poop Piece genre, especially 
the intro and its head-on addressing of the issues surrounding 
poop pieces at No Shame--which was well followed by Dan and 
Kyle's rendition.

I think Chris Okiishi's piece about the pagan family would have 
gone over a lot better if the script hadn't been printed out in a 
really small font so Sarah had to squint'n'read--or at least it 
looked like that was what was happening.  I'm sure Chris was 
consciously playing on misconceptions about paganism to further 
the ludicrous premise of the family conversion, though I suppose 
he coulda just made the kid convert to satan worship to clear up 
any ambiguities.

And Mike Cassady's piece was commendably brief and capped off a 
simple premise (the ever-familiar writing-about-writing-for-No 
Shame theme) with a very funny punch line.  It reminds me of the 
night that Dan Brooks had a piece titled "The Ideal No Shame 
Piece is Seven Seconds Long," and that same night James Erwin 
had a piece that was exactly that long that happened to be very, 
very funny.  Synchronicity.  Of course, Mike Cassady's piece was 
nothing like either of these pieces, aside from being shorter 
than most, but I'm reminded of them anyway.

And there was probably a lot more to talk about that no one has 
yet addressed, but I usually can't remember without the order.  
Which will be along soon, I'm sure.

Time: Sun, 03-Oct-1999 22:31:07 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.129

Mang, I totally forgot about the Aaron's butt skit. I can't 
believe it. Yeah, that was pretty darn funny.

As for messing up the stage: I had no idea No Shame was in danger 
of losing the space as a result of the creamed corn incident. I 
thought it was just politics. I apologize for my uninformed 
assumptions. I guess it wouldn't be wise to have Chris destroy 
the No Shame stage for three weeks. Perhaps instead we could put 
Chris, The Egg Man, 4 gallons of corn, and 8 dozen eggs into an 
huge garbage bag. We let it sit for three weeks and then see 
who's alive when we open it up. My money's on the corn. (...But 
my heart's rooting for Chris! Yay Stangl!) 

Time: Mon, 04-Oct-1999 00:29:34 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.189

 I also was disappointed with the Wicca piece. Believe 
:
it or not, "Wicca" and "Stereotypical Devil Cult" are not 
:
interchangeable terms. Maybe that was part of the joke, I don't 
:
know.


Sorry to potentially offend the Wiccan members of the audience.  
The piece was actually based on a family I counseled a few years 
back in another city, where the mother of the family, in order to 
support her son's new choice in religion, went with him to all 
the functions.  Every reference I made in the piece to the 
functions of the religion were from their conversation and from 
other chances I've had to chat with Wicca believers.  I didn't 
mean to present them as a "Devil Cult" because they are not.  I 
just thought the clash of Christian-Mom culture and pagan worship 
would be funny, because, believe me, it exists, and is pretty 
cool.  My forgiveness-begging to anyone inadvertanly mis-
represented.

Sorry also that Sarah's font was too small.  THAT, at least, was 
not my specific fault.

Time: Mon, 04-Oct-1999 14:33:45 GMT     IP: 152.163.207.178

First of all, to answer "$'s" criticisms from last week:
     Yes, I did come back, so I guess that means I am full of 
crap.
     I do know what queef means. I don't consider my life to have 
become any richer as a result of gaining this knowledge, so I 
decided early on that anyone who didn't know before my 
performance wouldn't learn from me.

     I'd like to thank everyone who pitched in to help clean up 
after I did my thing with the eggs. I expected to have to get it 
all myself, but it seemed like half the theater helped.
     I was trying to get a more-or-less serious point across, 
(I'm not sure if it worked) not just make a mess, and I promise 
never to use a splattering visual food metaphor onstage at No 
Sha

Time: Mon, 04-Oct-1999 17:53:58 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.124

   I've been watching No Shame off and on for a couple of years, 
now, but you have never seen me on stage and you probably never 
will.
   I just had to say that last week's show was something 
wonderful.  It wasn't the best No Shame ever but, despite the 
fact that, yes, it was overly long, I really did some enjoying 
that night.
   The egg piece, I thought, was a shame.  Even though the piece 
itself was poorly conceived and even though the whole smashing 
egg thing was about as artistic and/or thought provoking as it 
was clean, (or as "This is your brain on drugs...") there really 
was some wonderful writing in it, as reading the script, posted 
here, reaffirmed for me.  It was a shame that he had to smash the 
eggs in the first place and a shame that it all went awry, 
leaving nothing but a giggling audience/horrified board behind.
   Say, wasn't the now famous Chris Stangl banned for doing as 
much when he was but a fledgling No Shamer?  (I know that has 
already been brought up in this forum, but I needed to use 
something to segue into my next topic.  You will see after the 
closing parenthesis how beautifully this is done.)  Speaking of 
fledgling performers on their way to stardom, was that Arlen 
Lawson up there the same Arlen Lawson who did those Rabid Chicken 
pieces last semester?  You know, the ones that made me want to 
scream, "Stop it!  For the love of all that is funny, just get 
your fucking ass off the stage and stop coming back!"  When he 
took the stage, I was expecting to be disgusted but was, instead, 
blown away.  That was a wonderful skit.
   Other things that blew me away:  The Aaron's butt/striptease 
sketch.  (That was one and the same wasn't it?)  I do, however, 
get MTV and was more blown away by the fella's audacity than by 
any misconception that his schtick was original.  Just the same, 
the audacity was it and it was very much hilarious.  Also, I'm 
only talking about the striptease portion when I bring up the 
audacity vs. originality thing.
   Now back to Chris Stangl...  Wonderful, wonderful piece, Chris 
Stangl.  But was that a script you pulled out?  I can't remember 
if I have ever seen you use a script on the No Shame stage... 
ever.   (Of course, I have, shamefully, missed more than one week 
of No Shame.)  As little as I would normally have cared, and 
especially for a piece like that, I was just doing some wondering 
about how that must have felt for you, as all reports indicate 
that the memorization of lines is something that you pride 
yourself on.
   Jamal's poop skit?  Hysterical!  Despite the audience's 
reaction to most of his poop skits, I have loved every single 
one.  I don't particularly go for toilet humor, but it seems to 
me that when he does it, the joke is less about the poop and more 
about the fact that he continues to tell the jokes and to make a 
theme of them in the face of the fact that the audience doesn't 
react well.  Of course, this time the audience reacted well and I 
still enjoyed it, so maybe I'm just into poop humor, after all.
   What else can I remember about the night?  
   Brad's piece was funny, but mostly in the way that a sequel is 
funny, in that it references the previous jokes and makes you 
remember how hard you laughed the first time you heard that joke. 
 I'm not knocking it... Hell, I remembered it and I only remember 
what I actively like or actively hate.  And I did not actively 
hate it.  I'm just saying... that it was wonderful and this 
confused paragraph should be stricken from the record.
   That's all.  I really hope to see more from Arlen and that he 
wasn't offended by what I wrote about his old skits.

                         Carl

Time: Mon, 04-Oct-1999 20:29:42 GMT     IP: 128.255.95.154

re: nobody caring about a non-performer's review--I beg to differ!  
I would really love to see more audience feedback.  Non-performers 
have perhaps a different perspective, perhaps not (since 
performers are audience members too), but either way No Shame 
would be nothing without an audience.  And audience members must 
have opinions or they wouldn't keep coming back...   If there's 
anyone else out there who thinks they need a pass or somethin' to 
get in on this discussion, please dive right on in.

:I do, however, 
:get MTV and was more blown away by the fella's audacity than by 
:any misconception that his schtick was original.

I get MTV but don't watch it much.  What was being parodied?

:   Now back to Chris Stangl...  Wonderful, wonderful piece, Chris 
:Stangl.  But was that a script you pulled out?  I can't remember 
:if I have ever seen you use a script on the No Shame stage... 
:ever.

Ya know, this occured to me a couple of days after the show.  At 
least once in the past Chris Stangl pulled out a script, referred 
to it, and put it away--but later I heard that THAT action was 
scripted!  I'd be surprised if he scripted this last one though.  
Yet it's hard to complain after a history of such dedicated 
memorization, considering I hardly ever memorize things myself..

But it does bring to mind something I was wondering---Chris, how 
far in advance are your pieces written so you can memorize them so 
well?

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 00:07:25 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.141

Duder, how can I stop calling you the Egg Man? It's a great name. 
People would kill to have a nick name like the Egg Man. You are 
an egg among men, and I think you should flaunt it, Mickey. You 
go! And you don't stop! Yeah!  

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 00:13:24 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.141

Sir, I must agree with Mr. Burton: it's lovely to hear a non-
performer's review of the show. And not just because you like 
poop skits. Well, maybe... no, not just because you like poop 
skits.

-River

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 00:25:08 GMT     IP: 24.4.252.113

Um, if he's the Egg Man, would that make me the Walrus?

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 03:04:08 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.137

 I would really love to see more audience feedback

And I personally don't understand why you would come but not get 
that itching, irresistable, Tourettes-like urge to do a piece. 
Why is there such a thing as a regular No Shame audience member?

I do get MTV

Tom Green, even though he is the funniest man alive, did not 
invent abusing your parents for a privileged audience's 
amusement.  Misbehaving in front of your progenitors is a time-
honored No Shame tradition, just like pretentious poetry and 
getting foodstuffs and crap on the stage.

 was that a script you pulled out?

It ain't Wendell Willkie!

 ever seen you use a script on the No Shame stage

Perhaps you haven't seen it, but I have forgotten lines so 
severely that I needed to check my script (usually concealed on 
my person in a secret hidey-hole) on at least 3 ocassions. I have 
done two or three pieces entirely off scripts, or with script in 
hand.  Most recently my last Dead Week piece.

 At least once in the past Chris Stangl pulled out a script
 I heard that THAT action was scripted!

Sometimes when a "character" is reading off a "script," I even 
like to use a blank sheet of paper, and wave it around, so people 
can see it's blank and I look cool and everybody likes me and is 
my friend.  Then I get invited to parties, and everybody wants to 
marry me.

 how far in advance are your pieces written so you can memorize 
 them so well?

1) They're actually memorized very poorly.  I blow lines right-n-
left, drop perfectly good jokes, etc.  I'm usually groping for 
the next line, and use laugh-pauses to remember the next bit. 
That's why it's important for you to laugh every three or four 
words.
2) Pieces are written between 1 year ("Judy Garland") to 4 hours 
("Broken Heart, Broken Hymen") in advance, but changes are made 
right up until I step on stage.
3) I was so busy memorizing my lines for Arlen's piece that I 
decided to focus on getting my character down, instead of 
specific dialogue.  I stand by my choice.  Yay me.

Love,
Chris Stangl!!!!!!!!!

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 07:58:38 GMT     IP: 152.173.38.111

Okay so here's as much of the order as I can piece together, any other clues would be greatly
appreciated:

Dan Brooks - "Dan's Ambercrombie piece"

 Mike Cassady - "Mike Cassady's piece was commendably brief and capped off a simple premise
(the ever-familiar writing-about-writing-for-No Shame theme) with a very funny punch line."

 [author unknown] - The Aaron's butt/striptease sketch. // And the nipply tassly guy dancing to
Yello for his father was excellent indeed, in that "I can't believe it!" sort of way. // and the piece
where Kehry Lane did the strip-tease at his father were definitely in pretty startling territory.
(performed by Kehry Lane...)

 Bradley Harris - "The juggling rocked the house as expected, he's sooo good - it was almost as if
jubbling little red balls was too easy for him after the stuff he's done in the past."

 Chris [last name?] - Chris' cat torture monologue [perhaps the one where Chris Stangl pulled out
a script?]

 Neil Campbell - Neil's piece

 Arlen Lawson - Arlen's piece (performed by Chris Stangl)

 Nick Clark - Nick's poem

 Al Angel - "I liked Al's poem and was impressed by the startling contrast of that piece compared
to everything else Al has done." 

 Jamal River - "You know, the one about pooping?" (performed by Dan Brooks, Kyle Lange)

 [author unknown] - the job interview piece with the dwarf and the zany movie titles

 Adam Hahn - Egg

 [author unknown] - the piece where Aaron Galbraith serves as a prop

 Chris Okiishi - the Wicca piece (performed by Chris Okiishi, Sarah Greer) 

 Brad [last name?] - "Brad's piece was funny, but mostly in the way that a sequel is funny, in that
it references the previous jokes and makes you remember how hard you laughed the first time you
heard that joke." 

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 13:33:44 GMT     IP: 152.163.197.67

No, Chris Okiishi didn't perform in his piece with Sarah Greer, I 
did. (Chris wasn't there Friday night) Do the two of us really 
look that much alike?
Do you realize you listed Aaron's ass twic

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 17:07:58 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

too much serious stuff about the futility of love.  me, al, eggman and willie and probably more
people I'm forgetting.
Made for a depressing show.  Though it was all really good.  I think willie was talking about the
Mill.

The funny stuff was funny though.  There seemed to be a father-son theme to the show.  Nice to
see family values expounded by NSers.

I was able to read my poem louder and faster than I rehearsed it.  Yay.  I had hoped to outdo
Dan's second time through the order.  I think I did, but I'm not sure.  second opinion?

My favorite poop sketch to date, dismemberment, brass tacks in cats, parentheses, motorcycles. 
All great.

Keep on shuckin'.(This bein' Iowa an' all)

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 17:12:12 GMT     IP: 209.56.60.2


:
: [author unknown] - The Aaron's butt/striptease sketch. // And 
the nipply tassly guy dancing to Yello for his father was 
excellent indeed, in that "I can't believe it!" sort of way. // 
and the piece where Kehry Lane did the strip-tease at his father 
were definitely in pretty startling territory. (performed by Kehry 
Lane...)

This and the strip tease piece are one and the same, and I assume 
Mr. Lane wrote it
:

: Chris [last name?] is Stangl
:
: Neil Campbell - Neil's piece
:
: Arlen Lawson - Arlen's piece (performed by Chris Stangl) Well, 
sort of performed by Chris. One line, anyway. Also performed by 
Arlen, Mark, and me.
:
: Nick Clark - Nick's poem
:
: Al Angel - "I liked Al's poem and was impressed by the startling 
contrast of that piece compared to everything else Al has done." 
:
: Jamal River - "You know, the one about pooping?" (performed by 
Dan Brooks, Kyle Lange)
:
: [author unknown] - the job interview piece with the dwarf and 
the zany movie titles. Author= Rothschild
:
: Adam Hahn - Egg
:
 
:
: Brad [last name?] Smith

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 18:46:28 GMT     IP: 128.255.95.154

:No, Chris Okiishi didn't perform in his piece with Sarah Greer, I 
:did. (Chris wasn't there Friday night) Do the two of us really 
:look that much alike?
:Do you realize you listed Aaron's ass twic

Actually, Jeff Goode is the webmaster for No Shame, but he 
performs his duties from far, far away.  So he hasn't seen No 
Shame in a few years.  We could easily convince him that you and 
Chris are almost identical if everyone else would play along..

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 21:56:05 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.116

Announcements: Al's final pizza-delivery night.
     [performed by Brooks and Lange, appearance by Angel]

Brad Smith- Cut off my hand? Yes!
     [performed by Smith and Galbraith w/ Stangl, Brooks, 
Lawson]

Bradley Harris- "Lights Up"
     [performed by Harris]
Note: Brad or Brad went first, but who the hamba-jup can 
remember?!

Jamal River- "Yes, Mose Hayward Smelt It, and Yes, He Dealt It."
     [performed by River, Brooks and Lange]

Arlen Lawson- "Sheridan Way"
     [performed by Lawson, Hansen, River and Stangl]

Danger Brooks- "The Abercrombie -&- Fitch Theory"
     [performed by Brooks and Powell]

Mark "Malkmus" Hansen- "Shady Pines, Part I"
     [performed by Hansen, Mitchell, Campbell, Smith_ more?]

Kehry Lane -&- Guy- "We're Not Gay, We Just Like To Stare At Men's 
Asses_ Well, Maybe (some guy) Is Gay, But Not Us".  (I 
paraphrase.)
     [performed by Lane, another guy, Galbraith's butthole and 
Lane's visibly aroused father.]

Balls "Neil" Campbell- Good parenting, smack and self-esteem.
     [performed by Balls, Lane, and who else, yo?]

Mike Rothschild- "Ziggurat" (?)
     [performed by Rothschild, Brooks, Powell, more?]

Nick Clark - Nick's poem: "Here Comes The Love" (?)
     [performed by Clark]

Kyle Lange- Dead dad!
     [performed by Lange]

12) Chris Stangl- "Broken Heart, Broken Hymen: An Apocalypse"
     [performed by Stangl]

Willie Barbour- "Fantasy, A Trilogy in Three Parts"
     [performed by Barbour]

Al Angel- Hog Tied Poem!
     [performed by Angel, assisted by Lawson]

Mario Sosa- Ray-Ban Monkey masturbates, eats semen!
     [performed by Sosa]

Mike Cassady- The piece that is is short!
     [performed by Cassady and Greer]

Chris Okiishi - "The Family That Preys Together, Stays Together"
     [performed by Greer and Eggman Hahn]

last) Eggman Hahn- "Egg"
     [performed by Egg-a-loba Hahn "Solo" Eggman]

Post show) Cleaning up egg scum!
     [performed by Brooks, Eggy and co.]

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 23:05:03 GMT     IP: 128.255.106.61

Brad Smith's was first.  I can't remember the title but he made it 
up on the spot anyway.

Mark's was "Knotty Pines" and was fourth.  And I was in it.

Mine was fifth.

Al's was second to last.  In the order.  In terms of quality it 
was much higher than second to last.  Much, much higher.

I think the Bare ass / striptease was immediately before that and 
I think that Mario's piece was before that, but I'm not sure.

Was James Erwin in Mike's piece?

And, as I've included below the post made by Stangl and his 
absolutely supernatural memory, I think that makes this post the 
most fillin'-in-the-details-'bout'n-the-order post yet.

Arlen 

:Announcements: Al's final pizza-delivery night.
:    [performed by Brooks and Lange, appearance by Angel]
:
:Brad Smith- Cut off my hand? Yes!
:    [performed by Smith and Galbraith w/ Stangl, Brooks, 
:Lawson]
:
:Bradley Harris- "Lights Up"
:    [performed by Harris]
:Note: Brad or Brad went first, but who the hamba-jup can 
:remember?!
:
:Jamal River- "Yes, Mose Hayward Smelt It, and Yes, He Dealt It."
:    [performed by River, Brooks and Lange]
:
:Arlen Lawson- "Sheridan Way"
:    [performed by Lawson, Hansen, River and Stangl]
:
:Danger Brooks- "The Abercrombie --&-- Fitch Theory"
:    [performed by Brooks and Powell]
:
:Mark "Malkmus" Hansen- "Shady Pines, Part I"
:    [performed by Hansen, Mitchell, Campbell, Smith_ more?]
:
:Kehry Lane --&-- Guy- "We're Not Gay, We Just Like To Stare At 
Men's 
:Asses_ Well, Maybe (some guy) Is Gay, But Not Us".  (I 
:paraphrase.)
:    [performed by Lane, another guy, Galbraith's butthole and 
:Lane's visibly aroused father.]
:
:Balls "Neil" Campbell- Good parenting, smack and self-esteem.
:    [performed by Balls, Lane, and who else, yo?]
:
:Mike Rothschild- "Ziggurat" (?)
:    [performed by Rothschild, Brooks, Powell, more?]
:
:Nick Clark - Nick's poem: "Here Comes The Love" (?)
:    [performed by Clark]
:
:Kyle Lange- Dead dad!
:    [performed by Lange]
:
:12) Chris Stangl- "Broken Heart, Broken Hymen: An Apocalypse"
:    [performed by Stangl]
:
:Willie Barbour- "Fantasy, A Trilogy in Three Parts"
:    [performed by Barbour]
:
:Al Angel- Hog Tied Poem!
:    [performed by Angel, assisted by Lawson]
:
:Mario Sosa- Ray-Ban Monkey masturbates, eats semen!
:    [performed by Sosa]
:
:Mike Cassady- The piece that is is short!
:    [performed by Cassady and Greer]
:
:Chris Okiishi - "The Family That Preys Together, Stays Together"
:    [performed by Greer and Eggman Hahn]
:
:last) Eggman Hahn- "Egg"
:    [performed by Egg-a-loba Hahn "Solo" Eggman]
:
:Post show) Cleaning up egg scum!
:    [performed by Brooks, Eggy and co.]

Time: Tue, 05-Oct-1999 23:16:31 GMT     IP: 128.255.106.61

   Okay, so apparently, another post was made while I was posting 
that last one and apparently there is a a new contender.
   It's okay, though, cause I remembered more.  Al's piece was 
called "The Bondage Piece"
   There you have it.

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 00:18:32 GMT     IP: 205.188.192.41

This is what I had scribbled for the order (not exact titles or 
authors, but I think you can match some of them up to what you 
have):
1 Demp (this title made no sense)
2 Light (I think Lights up)
3 Yes- Jamal
4 Pines (Hansen? I can't read my writing)
5
5.5 poem
6 Ziggarut
7 ? (I think Brooks wrote and/or performed #7, there was nothing 
on his order when I copied it)
8 Again- Kyle Lange
9 Men's Asses
10 Fantasy- Barbour
11 Balls
12 Stangl
13 Cassidy's piece, the title was something about Oscar Wilde
13.5 Monkey
14 The Family That Preys Together. . . 
15 Bondage
16 Egg by

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 00:18:32 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

:I gotta say, it's not too often that two pieces in a night of No 
: Shame actually get the "oh my god, I can't believe they're
:doing that" reaction out of me.  I mean, after a while you get 
: used to a lot of the things people throw out there to get 
: a rise out of the audience.  However, artistic merits aside, 
:the piece where Aaron Galbraith serves as a prop and the piece 
:where Kehry Lane did the strip-tease at his father were 
:definitely in pretty startling territory.  Heh.  Nudity AND 
:strip-teases have happened before at No Shame, but context and 
:presentation can make old things brand spankin' new.

I'm glad that the piece had that effect on at least one person.  
I have to say though that the entire thing would not have been 
possible if it wasn't for Aaron so galantly offering up his rump 
to the skit.  Many thanks are due him for his willingness to do 
something so "strange".
     K. Anson Lane

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 00:36:47 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139


   Other things that blew me away:  The Aaron's butt/striptease 
:
sketch.  (That was one and the same wasn't it?)  I do, however, 
:
get MTV and was more blown away by the fella's audacity than by 
:
any misconception that his schtick was original.  Just the same, 
:
the audacity was it and it was very much hilarious.  Also, I'm 
:
only talking about the striptease portion when I bring up the 
:
audacity vs. originality thing.


Just to make something clear...  I didn't realize what MTV had to 
do with anything when I first read this.  After reading following 
postings I realized that you must have thought this was a Tom 
Green spinoff in some effect.
    You are mistaken.  It is somewhat of a joke in our family to 
embarass my father at every opportunity.  He had a clue as to 
waht was going to happen because my mom spilled the beans before 
hand.]
    Additionally, I think that Tom Green is funny, but the idea 
did not originate from watching him as you might like to assume.  
Besides... It's not like I stood up and said "That's NEVER been 
done before"...  Just about everything had been done or at least 
thought of at one time or another.  I'm glad that you enjoyed it, 
but I guess I fail to see a reason for the offhand comments that 
are made to tear something down.  Especially when they are based 
on assumptions.
     K. Anson Lane

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 00:38:31 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139


Tom Green, even though he is the funniest man alive, did not 
:
invent abusing your parents for a privileged audience's 
:
amusement.  Misbehaving in front of your progenitors is a time-
:
honored No Shame tradition, just like pretentious poetry and 
:
getting foodstuffs and crap on the stage.
:

Exactly.. Thank you.

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 00:44:23 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

:Kehry Lane --&-- Guy- "We're Not Gay, We Just Like To Stare At 
:Men's Asses_ Well, Maybe (some guy) Is Gay, But Not Us".  (I 
:paraphrase.)
:[performed by Lane, another guy, Galbraith's butthole and 
:Lane's visibly aroused father.]

Dad had wood?  Shit!

     K. Lane

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 18:32:49 GMT     IP: 128.255.110.238

:First of all, to answer "$'s" criticisms from last week:
:     Yes, I did come back, so I guess that means I am full of 
:crap.
:     I do know what queef means. I don't consider my life to have 
:become any richer as a result of gaining this knowledge, so I 
:decided early on that anyone who didn't know before my 
:performance wouldn't learn from me.

Well, since ya came back, sorry fer sayin yer full of crepe.  
Crepes are good though.  You make 'em with a lot of eggs.
I'll take your word for it that you know what a queef is, but I 
don't know if I buy this explaination.  I can think of at least 
twelve points in my life at which this knowledge came in handy.  
Two of those times weren't even during no-shame skits.

Crazy week on the web, eh?  With all the biz about eggs and the 
lost order.  Yeesh.

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 18:33:40 GMT     IP: 128.255.110.238

:First of all, to answer "$'s" criticisms from last week:
:     Yes, I did come back, so I guess that means I am full of 
:crap.
:     I do know what queef means. I don't consider my life to have 
:become any richer as a result of gaining this knowledge, so I 
:decided early on that anyone who didn't know before my 
:performance wouldn't learn from me.

Well, since ya came back, sorry fer sayin yer full of crepe.  
Crepes are good though.  You make 'em with a lot of eggs.
I'll take your word for it that you know what a queef is, but I 
don't know if I buy this explaination.  I can think of at least 
twelve points in my life at which this knowledge came in handy.  
Two of those times weren't even during no-shame skits.

Crazy week on the web, eh?  With all the biz about eggs and the 
lost order.  Yeesh.

Time: Wed, 06-Oct-1999 22:36:57 GMT     IP: 206.230.238.56

1) "I Could Have Just Put A Dead Squirrel in A Bag" by Brad Smith 
and Aaron Galbraith

11)"Smackdown" by Neil "Balls" Campbell  (featuring Balls, Kehry 
Lane, and Aaron Galbraith)

13) "Oscar Wilde, Eat Your Heart Out" by Mike Cassady.

I'm helpful!

Time: Thu, 07-Oct-1999 01:10:47 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.199


btw the title of my piece was "Love Poem" by Dubiou$ $exuality 
›lark

Time: Thu, 07-Oct-1999 03:40:06 GMT     IP: 128.255.106.107


:Just to make something clear...  I didn't realize what MTV had to 
:do with anything when I first read this.  After reading following 
:postings I realized that you must have thought this was a Tom 
:Green spinoff in some effect.
:    You are mistaken.  It is somewhat of a joke in our family to 
:embarass my father at every opportunity.  He had a clue as to 
:waht was going to happen because my mom spilled the beans before 
:hand.]
:    Additionally, I think that Tom Green is funny, but the idea 
:did not originate from watching him as you might like to assume. 
 
   Wasn't so much the idea.  I never said idea.  I said Schtick.  
Now I, personally, can't honestly say that I know the dictionary's 
definition of schtick, or that I own a dictionary... or books of 
any kind... or a schtick.  Hell, I can't even honestly say that I 
know how to read, but I can say that the whole time through it 
felt as though I was watching somebody do their impression of the 
wonderful Tom Green.
   Also, it was a good impersonation.  Also, it was funny.

   Also it was Tom Green.

Time: Thu, 07-Oct-1999 07:24:14 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

::
   Wasn't so much the idea.  I never said idea.  I said Schtick.  
:
Now I, personally, can't honestly say that I know the 
dictionary's 
:
definition of schtick, or that I own a dictionary... or books of 
:
any kind... or a schtick.  Hell, I can't even honestly say that I 
:
know how to read, but I can say that the whole time through it 
:
felt as though I was watching somebody do their impression of the 
:
wonderful Tom Green.
:Also, it was a good impersonation.  Also, it was funny.:
:Also it was Tom Green.

Mmmmm K

Time: Thu, 07-Oct-1999 14:13:33 GMT     IP: 128.255.95.154

:   Also, it was a good impersonation.  Also, it was funny.
:   Also it was Tom Green.

Ah, I see...  It's like one of those Time-Life psychic things.  In 
Cleveland, a man slips on a banana peel.  At that same moment, a 
young girl in DC chokes on an orange peel and spits it up.  But on 
that same day, at that same hour, TWO YEARS EARLIER, a young man 
chokes on a banana peel and spits it up while driving halfway 
between Cleveland and DC.  Clearly one or two of these people were 
copying the other two people or one person, depending.  But who 
copied who?

Hmmm..

Time: Thu, 07-Oct-1999 15:40:02 GMT     IP: 205.188.198.162

     A few weeks ago, after Stangl's "Judie Garland is Dead and 
Other Vicious Lies", one of my friends in the audience discounted 
the performance as merely a "rip-off of Dana Carvey". I disagreed 
with her.
     Someone could easily look at my Egg piece and analyze, "This 
is just like a Gallagher performance [remember Gallagher?], only 
it tries to be less crass and more meaningful." I would disagree.
     Watching Lane's piece, I'll admit that I was reminded of Tom 
Green. Was he stealing Green's schtick? I think not.
     I'm not going to say that we all haven't been influenced by 
other, more famous performers. We've paid attention to the people 
we grew up being entertained by and the people that we think are 
innovative today. We try to use their experiences, what works or 
doesn't work for them, as springboards for our own ideas.
     There is a danger and a temptation in using too much of 
someone else's ideas, (I defy you to find anyone who can do a 
George Bush impersonation without actually impersonating Dana 
Carvey's impersonation.) but I don't think that's the case here.
     I'm sure that Stangl wrote "Judie Garland. . . " thinking to 
himself, "All right, this is a piece about a crotchety old man 
telling unbelievable stories about his youth to younger people. 
How am I going to play it?" There are only so many ways to play 
crotchety old men. How much of an influence was Dana Carvey? It 
really doesn't matter. What's important is that Stangl gave us 
Stangl on stage, with whatever had contributed to his style 
figuring into the equation, not just Stangl impersonating someone 
else's style.
     Lane went on stage thinking, "I'm going to be totally 
uninhibited and do something totally embarrassing to my father." 
This might be the same mind set used by Tom Green, and Lane might 
have taken lessons from Green's successes and failures, but he was 
still giving us his own personal spin on a concept. He was giving 
us himself. If that reminds us of someone else, that

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 00:13:02 GMT     IP: 205.188.192.189


:    
:
     Someone could easily look at my Egg piece and analyze, "This 
:
is just like a Gallagher performance [remember Gallagher?]               I do now. (Bastard.)

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 04:21:56 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

Ah, I see...  It's like one of those Time-Life psychic things.  
In 
:
Cleveland, a man slips on a banana peel.  At that same moment, a 
:
young girl in DC chokes on an orange peel and spits it up.  But 
on 
:
that same day, at that same hour, TWO YEARS EARLIER, a young man 
:
chokes on a banana peel and spits it up while driving halfway 
:
between Cleveland and DC.  Clearly one or two of these people 
were 
:
copying the other two people or one person, depending.  But who 
:
copied who?
:

:
Hmmm..


He hehe hehe.. You kick ass.  Thank you.  Very eloquently put.. I 
just resigned to my self that I was dealing with a far superior 
intellect and that he actually knew the origins of my piece 
better than I did.
     God knows that I wouldn't have ANY clue as to where my idea 
(oops... I guess it's good ol Tom Green's idea) came from... I'm 
glad that Carl pointed out the error of my ways.

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 08:45:49 GMT     IP: 152.204.167.194

     God knows that I wouldn't have ANY clue as to where my idea 
:
(oops... I guess it's good ol Tom Green's idea) came from... I'm 
:
glad that Carl pointed out the error of my ways.
:


   Well, then, you are very, very welcome and I'm glad that you 
can so graciously appreciate input that is not, "Oh, your piece 
was completely and absolutely wonderful in all regards... and did 
I mention the funniest piece I have ever seen?"
  So few people can actually do that and the fact that you can 
says worlds about your character.
   But I must once more reiterate, O Gracious subject of my 
constructive criticism, O person to whom I took time out of my 
life to give feedback to (and isn't that a part of what No Shame 
was started for) and more time out to correct any misconceptions 
that might have been had, and all because I felt a little guilty 
for getting No Shame quality entertainment for as little as $1 a 
week without giving anything back, must once more reiterate that 
your idea was never challenged.  I liked it.  I liked it already 
and, as instructive as you've admitted my posts to be, I never 
had anything didactic to say about your idea.
   It's your style, O new friend, (dare I say pupil?) your style 
that reminds me of the legendary performer, the master of 
masters.  There may be one or more reasons for this.  You may 
unwittingly love the man and so have adopted some of his 
mannerisms as your own... withoutevenknowingit...  You may 
unwittingly be an MTV personality, yourself... All I'm saying is 
that you just don't know what real jelly is until you've tried a 
hot pastrami sandwich.


         Carl 

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 08:55:00 GMT     IP: 152.204.167.194

   I was intending to use that as the subject line for my last 
post.  Here, I correct that egregious error.

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 17:36:15 GMT     IP: 205.160.208.51

you know, i havent read posts in the board room for awhile, and 
have no cue what youre all talking about.

but kehry...im on your side.

we'll fight it until the end.

incidentally...the egg man is a high quality nickname, and your 
should appreciate before you get named something worse, like 
"crazy ass phreak", or "uterus boy".

the choice is yours.

kehry, well have a meeting to discuss our next plan of action.

insincerely,

mike "unbearable" cassady

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 18:30:04 GMT     IP: 128.255.60.117

Why You Are All So Wrong.

To address several issues raised by several persons, all of whom 
I disagree with to varying degrees:

1) Re: the second half of Lane's "We're Not Gay" and it's 
resemblance to Tom Green:
     I wish to propose that not only were Lane's intent and 
style severely different enough from Green's to be unique (the 
3-point system: a) Lane, unlike Green, actually worked within a 
sketch-comedy framework, even his "dance" piece containing a 
set-up/ punch-line and an actual scenario, where Green's brand of 
comedy rises more from unmotivated, non sequitur antisocial 
behavior; that is, there was a plot of sorts.  b) Green rarely 
choreographs his stunts as elaborately as Lane's synchronized 
dance, relying more on spontaneous reactions to shape his 
performance.  This is pretty plain in the totally different 
ends-of-spectrum that Lane and Green approach their 
assaults-on-innocents from, and Lane's performance style owes 
nothing important to Green. Green's idiosyncratic eye-ball 
fluttering, guttural whines, faux-epileptic fits, and "retard 
voice," his agrammatical hollering rants, and his twitchy spasms 
are absolutely nowhere to be found in Lane's on-stage persona. c) 
I think you're reacting more to Lane and Green both having 
similar facial configurations- narrow, longish face, long nose, 
goatee- than anything specific in "We're Not Gay."  As for 
stealing "ideas" vs. swiping "schtick," there's not a practical 
difference, except that schtick sounds more lowbrow, and in the 
variant you're implying really just means somebody's bag, their 
gimmick, whatever traits are heavily relied upon to create the 
standard-issue version of their Thing.  Tom Green's schtick [or 
"shtick" depending on how much you want to corrupt the Yiddish] 
consists mostly of harassing everyone for no good reason +- the 
mannerisms from above; my shtick is popularly defined as poops 
and pratfalls), but that Lane was likewise not even channeling/ 
reworking Green, as Eggman has suggested.  The only evidence *I* 
need is that Lane vehemently denies having ripped off Green in 
any capacity.  If "Carl" requires more, I will put forth the 
following:
a) Embarrassing your parents at No Shame is a long-standing 
ritual.  In recent times, you may recall Dan Brooks going full 
monty at Best Of last year, Aaron Galbraith's daddy-beat-me piece 
"They Gave Me Life, I Gave Them Strife", Mose Hayward doing an 
interpretive dance to Mr. River's "Fart-Fart Song" (in which Mose 
wipes his butt "until the paper's brown" and then licks it), all 
of which occurred in front of the performers' parents.
b) More importantly, Lane did essentially the same piece fairly 
recently, dancing to Yello with his ruby nipple-tassles, while 
his parents were in the audience.  The previous incarnation was 
longer and more elaborate, but without the added ante-upper of 
Pappy sitting on stage.
c) ALL OF THIS PREDATES THE AMERICAN DEBUT OF "THE TOM GREEN 
SHOW," or at least its widespread popularity.  Not that it 
matters.  Steve Allen was bothering innocent people for his 
audience's amusement well before that, and before that, Socrates.

2) RE: "Leggo My Eggo"-Hahn's thoughts about my performance of 
"Judy Garland is Dead".
I find this slightly more baffling.  Not only because I 
personally don't especially care for Dana Carvey, but because I 
see even less resemblance than in the above case.
     As Dan Brooks pointed out to me, if "Garland" was a 
flat-out thievery of anything, it is Brooks' "Young Jakob Schreck 
Gets His Inheritance" and "A Story About Girls," in both of which 
old men recount brutalization of dead Golden Age Hollywood stars. 
 Dana Carvey's "Grumpy Old Man" monologues on "Weekend Update" 
followed a very specific format which doesn't resemble my piece 
(except in the simple fact that the anecdotes become increasingly 
more grotesque and absurd, which is a basic build-on-your-gags 
law of comedy that can't really be violated, and a direct-address 
style, which I usually use anyway, certainly not unique to this 
piece).  I indeed played an old man+ICY- but not an especially angry 
or crotchety old man+ICY- and I did indeed squinch up my face and 
pull my glasses down, but my facial contortions were more 
fore-head-and-lip oriented, while Carvey's Old Man is essentially 
his Garth Algar face with squinted eyes and a different wig.  The 
voices are only superficially similar, Carvey going more for 
sustained high-pitch whine, while I was working with an entirely 
different set of language rhythms.  I also attempted a more 
Californian accent than Grumpy Old Man's slight Nor'east tinge -&- 
was trying for the expressiveness Alan Young brought to 
"crotchety old man" Scrooge McDuck on "DuckTales" (minus the 
Scottish brogue, natch).
More genuine rip-offs you might have noticed me committing this 
semester: "Broken Heart"'s pilfering of the gag structure of Max 
Cannon's comic strip "Red Meat"; my performance in Nick Clark's 
"Santa Claus Is A Prick," vocal inflections all swiped from Orson 
Welles, and Johnny Depp in "Ed Wood" (who was doing Mickey Rooney 
as Andy Hardy).  So there.
     Mr. Egg's "Egg" didn't owe jack-ruby-squat to Gallagher, 
except that he attempted to be insightful while smashing things, 
and has some scraggly facial hair.  I think that calling 
Gallagher "crass and [not] meaningful" is not a totally accurate 
reading of Gallagher, though, as his (poor excuse for) social 
commentary is more-or-less screamed during his routine.  Eggy's 
eggs aimed to be a more complicated metaphor than Gallagher's 
watermelons, which are more attention getting-device and 
diversionary tactic.  Different approaches, neither one 
inherently more "meaningful" than the other.

3) Some thoughts on influence:
     It seems pretty clear to me which of us grew up watching 
"Saturday Night Live" (Rothschild), who still belongs in the 
"Flying Circus" camp (Lawson), who's seen too much Marx Brothers 
(Hansen), who digs on "Kids In The Hall" (Stangl, Cassady), the 
Keaton fanboys (Brooks, Stangl), the Chaplin hangers-on (Greer). 
 There are likewise unacknowledged, probably unconscious debts, 
such as Greer's naturalistic non-gag approach to absurd 
monologues- her "Ranger's Tail" was 100% Jonathan Winters, the 
River/Stangl poop-gag institution which has reached Dada 
absurdist confrontationalist realms.  The point is that these 
things tend to manifest in far subtler ways than the kind of 
direct-reference/ personal-spin Egg-a is proposing.  That is, Al 
Angel isn't channeling Mamet just because he says "fuck" a lot, 
but more because his pieces revolve on an axis of aggressive, 
hostile male sexuality.  If I owe something to Carvey, it's less 
a specific character than a desire to delineate different 
characters with vocal and facial contortions.  I don't think J-Mo 
River has seen many Punch -&- Judy shows, but his sketches find 
their roots in the basic story structure.  Influence is where 
you're LEAST looking for it.  Point also being that Egg-hand is 
right Dan may say he's "Buster Fuckin' Keaton, yo!" but nobody'd 
take it at face-value, since we're obviously looking at more 
Brooks than Keaton.  Nobody can eat all fiddy eggs, but Hahn can 
smash 2 dozen and owe less to Gallagher than to Matt Sucarsky, 
knowing it, or not.

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 18:50:04 GMT     IP: 209.56.60.2

:the egg man is a high quality nickname

I told you so, Egg Man.

And as for the now-heated "Kehry Lane is Tom Green" debate, I see 
practically no similarities between their comic stylings. Nor do 
I believe that Tom Green infiltrated Kehry's mind and body 
(without Mr. Lane even knowing it!) and is now seeping through 
his every word and mannerism. Kehry's skit would never have even 
made me think of Tom Green if their so-called similarities hadn't 
been pointed out to me. (No disrepsect intended to Mr. Green, who 
is unarguably the funniest man alive.) 

River 

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 18:53:54 GMT     IP: 171.213.118.244

I'd like to take one final moment to thank all y'all for your heartfelt cooperation in reconstructing
the order from last weeks show, resulting in a remarkably comprehensive listing.  Perhaps
someday future anthropologists will learn the true identity of Mario's masturbating monkey semen
sketch, but in the meantime, (to quote Meatloaf:) 17 out of 18 ain't bad.  Woo woo!


...Jeff


http://www.noshame.org/ord99_fall#Oct01.99

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 19:08:35 GMT     IP: 128.255.111.26

Reverend, your comments are way to insightful and informed to 
share this web space with the rest of us.  I request for the 
upkeep of the self esteem of everyone who posts here you no longer 
say anything meaningful on this website.  Also, I'm being sincere, 
so don't be offended.  Also, are you a real reverend?  I am.
$

Time: Fri, 08-Oct-1999 21:56:54 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.223

: are you a real reverend?

I am indeed, having been doubly ordained by two separate 
church's.  I am a minister of neopaganist UFO mind-control cult 
The Church of the SubGenius (my denomination of choice: 
http://www.subgenius.com ), as well as the tax-evasion basement 
outfit The Universal Life Church.

-Yours in Chris,
Rev. Dr. Chris L. Stangl-a Jr.

Time: Sat, 09-Oct-1999 00:14:27 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

:Why You Are All So Wrong.
:
Sorry for not reposting your entire beautiful post.  I'm 
speechless...  Your argument is absolute sound not to mention 
dazzling.  A thousand thanks are due to you.  You presentation of 
the Tom Green vs Me is seemless...  Wow!
     K. Anson Lane

Time: Sat, 09-Oct-1999 07:30:16 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

::the egg man is a high quality nickname
:

:
I told you so, Egg Man.
:

:
And as for the now-heated "Kehry Lane is Tom Green" debate, I see 
:
practically no similarities between their comic stylings. Nor do 
:
I believe that Tom Green infiltrated Kehry's mind and body 
:
(without Mr. Lane even knowing it!) and is now seeping through 
:
his every word and mannerism. Kehry's skit would never have even 
:
made me think of Tom Green if their so-called similarities hadn't 
:
been pointed out to me. (No disrepsect intended to Mr. Green, who 
:
is unarguably the funniest man alive.) 
:

:
River 

Sorry that I missed this when I was checking posts earlier.  You 
my good sir are a good man!  As is Mr. Stangl.  Thank you
     K.Anson Lane

Time: Sat, 09-Oct-1999 21:00:08 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.193

Good show, yis!

My favorites, in no order:

Neil's Kaiser piece.   Ooh, did I dig.  I'm still a cacklin' when 
I recall parts of this one.  Mike was so ultraKaiser, couldn't 
have picked a better person than someone dressed like that to 
play the part.  And Dan was hilarious as a cruel daddy.  I really 
loved the way he threw his head back to cackle when
Aaron so wittily called Neil a loser.  Goood, good stuff.

Aprille's wonderfully titled little ditty.  Tight stuff.  "But 
they make me write their papers for them...".  Aaron looked _so_ 
10 years old, yesss.
I won't go so far as to say that Aprille looks like a sorority 
wannabe mom, since she knows where I live and stuff, but she was 
great playing the role of
said dippy ma.

Chris's little kiddy monologue.  This man is kicking some ass 
this semester, no?  I think I liked this mono even better than 
the Wiz of Oz one he did earlier this semester.  They're both 
well into the Best Of category if you ask me, too bad he did both 
of them.  "So if you eat a popsicle, and like...imagine
that it's a guts of bug, 'cause guts of bug is green...."  So 
cute!
 
James; Jesse Jackson impression.  Talk about imagery, kiddies.  
In combination with the delivery, which none can fault.  Some 
gross Bengals fan, in a stadium, getting James from behind, 
pressing his forehead into the remains of a corn dog....and.  
Well, you know.  Coming unto James, and coming unto the small of
his back.  Ack!  Killer.

Jamal's "you lick butts if you won't play with Chris's nipples 
piece".  Audience involvement at its best, very possibly.  Well 
done, well done, yis.

Ben's song was really great.  That is some serious slide action, 
and he sings as well as anyone who gets up there to do songs.  
Nice to have him show up and do more.

Adam started off the night really well with a good Okiishi 
paragraph, and it set the tone for the evening.  So great when 
there's a clamor for shorter pieces...and it actually happens!  I 
believe there were more pieces tonight than last week, and yet 
the night was at least 15 minutes shorter.  Rock!

Honorable mentions:  The Jedi Mind trick in a bar piece, Al as 
the 5 year old sister, Al and Chris with the broken toilet/ Neil 
who wants to suck cock.
And I'm probably forgetting stuff, someone post ze order, yis!

-Ze Count

Time: Sat, 09-Oct-1999 21:27:05 GMT     IP: 24.9.192.139

Dearest Carl,
     You seem slightly more apologetic in this most recent post, 
but I think you still fail to see what offended about your 
original post.  Let me tell you a few things about myself first.
 1) I do appriciate constructive critiques of my work.  That is 
IF they are truly constructive, that is helpful with what read 
well, what didn't read well etc.  Anything that may help cut the 
fat out of future performances is great.
 2) I am usually not a sarcastic person towards others unless 
they are a friend that knows I am merely joking, or they are 
someone who has offended me.
 3) You must remember how postings on websites and e-mail 
messages are quite frequently taken wrongly because we are 
missing the tone of voice behind the words and the physicality of 
the person to recieve the entire message.  The web in that way is 
severely lacking in it's use as a communication tool.

     Now, with that in mind, reflect on what you said in your 
last posts.  The first post I read and I wasn't sure as to what 
MTV had to do with my piece until someone later in the postings 
mention that you were suggesting that I was copying Tom Green.  
This cause me to reply.  I felt it necessary to clear my name 
(I'll tell you in a moment exactly what I mean).  I was careful 
to suggest that your opinion was based merely on assumption about 
me and my creative orignins as a performer.  Being a person who 
does not know me, you have very little merit when you say that my 
piece was heavily influenced by Tom Green.  (Not to mention Rev. 
Stangl made a lengthy reply to refute this claim)  In your 
rebuttel to my rebuttel you ONCE AGAIN affirmed your belief by 
saying "And also, it was Tom Green".   The offensive word in that 
sentence is *WAS*.  You had suggested in your first message that 
I was a plagiarist.  In your second message you claimed that I 
was a plagiarist when you used the word "was".
     Do you understand now where I am coming from?  I hold no 
malice toward you as one person to another, but when a critic 
accuses me (in my eyes) of something that horrible, I take 
offense.  I refer you to #3 above.  Perhaps in your eyes you were 
NOT accusing me or anyone of plagiarizing, but it certainly came 
across that way.
     So hopefully you understand me a little better now.  By all 
means, continue to critique, but do not accuse anyone based on 
assumptions.
     Sincerely,
          K.Anson Lane 

Time: Sun, 10-Oct-1999 04:47:28 GMT     IP: 128.255.111.40

:I am indeed, having been doubly ordained by two separate 
:church's.  I am a minister of neopaganist UFO mind-control cult 
:The Church of the SubGenius (my denomination of choice: 
:http://www.subgenius.com ), as well as the tax-evasion basement 
:outfit The Universal Life Church.
:
:-Yours in Chris,
:Rev. Dr. Chris L. Stangl-a Jr.

Zound!  Precisely the organizations from which I draw my own 
ministerial authority.  What a shock.

How bout that no shame on friday, huh?  I felt like too many 
people were reacting to the anti-long piece hubbub and doing skits 
under 20 seconds which, while fun during a normal week of NS, are 
annoying when seen at a sitting.  I think the synergy of the night 
was weak as a result.  I thought my piece was excellent and 
brought the entire show together though.  I'm surprised no one has 
made any posts about it yet, 'cause I thought it was the best 
thing on any stage ever.  
     On a serious note, I actually appreciated the long 'Tarkovsky 
of No-Shame' piece with shoes off; who/whatever that was, I loved 
it.  I think the preponderance of shorties was the main culprit in 
my attraction to it.  Also, it took the risk of being artsy, which 
can be percieved as pretentious, which is something a lot of no 
shamers (myself front 'n' center) seem to avoid like that thing 
that killed people in the middle ages.  I'm glad he didn't (seem 
to) water down his piece.  The order hasn't been posted yet, but 
standouts were Kyle's piece, Rev. Stangl's, Jamal's, and the one I 
think was Jimmy-James' - the Hong-Kong Phooey one, though I could 
be mistaken on that authorial detail.  Whosever it was, it was 
mega-brilliant.
luv$exdrug$nroknrol,
Dubiou$ 

Time: Sun, 10-Oct-1999 08:26:22 GMT     IP: 205.188.198.189


  The order hasn't been posted yet, but 
:
standouts were Kyle's piece, Rev. Stangl's, Jamal's, and the one I 
:
think was Jimmy-James' - the Hong-Kong Phooey one, though I could 
:
be mistaken on that authorial detail.  Whosever it was, it was 
:
mega-brilliant.
:
    I believe the hong kong phooey skit was written by Brad Smith, though I could be mistaken.      
                                                                                                                                                       
            Mark J. Hansen          

Time: Sun, 10-Oct-1999 08:36:00 GMT     IP: 205.188.198.189



     It seems pretty clear to me which of us grew up watching 
:
"Saturday Night Live" (Rothschild), who still belongs in the 
:
"Flying Circus" camp (Lawson), who's seen too much Marx Brothers 
:
(Hansen), who digs on "Kids In The Hall" (Stangl, Cassady), the 
:
Keaton fanboys (Brooks, Stangl), the Chaplin hangers-on (Greer). 
                                                                                                              Y uo know, there's no
such thing as "too much Marx Brothers." I'd be the first to say that. In fact, I was. Why is mine
the only one with the negative tone to it? There's the "digging on Kids in the Hall," the "Keaton
fanboys," the "Flying Circus camp," but then we have "seen too much Marx Brothers?" Do I
sense a bias here? Or is it chicken gravy?                                                       (Too much Marx
Brothers, my left foot.)

Time: Sun, 10-Oct-1999 17:57:36 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.214



    I believe the hong kong phooey skit was written by Brad Smith

I believe it _was_ written by Brad Smith. I believe that. And I, 
for one, would like to nominate it for funniest piece in the 
entire history of everything. It was the greatest beauty mine 
eyes have yet to behold.

By the by the by the, I liked how all the pieces were short. Good 
for that, I say.

JAMALKAKS

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 01:09:13 GMT     IP: 205.188.199.182

Yes, Reverend, you're pretty much right about everything.
Forgive me for displaying my ignorance, but who is Matt Sucarsky?

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 03:24:14 GMT     IP: 128.255.106.11

The order, as posted by Dan on ISCA


The order, Boyos and Girlas:                                     
               
1) An Attempt to Do as Dan Brooks Suggested and "Cut All the Fat" 
Out of My     
Writing, Tossing Aside the Dead Weight, Jettisoning the Redundant 
Repetition,   
the Superfluous Sentence, the Extra Example, In Favor of a 
Leaner,              
Less-Gristled Monologue, As Performed by Adam Burton -- Thanks to 
Dan for the   
Inspiration and to My Mother for Her Love and Support. Peace. 
Out. by Chris     
"Succinct Is Now My Middle Name, Thanks to Dan" Okiishi 
(Editorial note: Chris  
is my friend. But fuck him.)                                     
               
2) Fose Fatfard vs A Dead Bee by Brad Smith                      
               
2.5) Die Wichtigeit Earnest Zusein by Mike Rothschild and Aaron 
Galbraith       
3) I Want to Be Just Like Dan "Danger" Brooks by Hazard Angel    
               
4) Hostile Word Association by Chris Sobbing and Kehry Lane      
               
4.5) A Song by Ben Schmidt                                       
               
5) If You're Gonna Steal, Steal from the Best: A Blatant Rip-Off 
of a Mike      
Rothschild Idea by John Hague                                    
               
6) Mose Hayward and the Talking Booger by Jamal River            
               
7) The Matchmaker by Kyle Lange                                  
               
8) Oedipus, Then Wipe Your Chin by Aprille Clarke                
               
9) German Chocolate Hate by Neil "Balls" Campbell                
               
10) Knotty Pines, Pt. II by Mark Hansen                          
               
10.5) Part I, by Dan Hall                                        
               
11) Tattoo by Greg Mitchell                                      
               
12) Get Down on Your Fucking Knees, You Miserable Wretches, For I 
Bring You     
Theatre by James Erwin                                           
               
13) The Pudding Sketch by Arlen Lawson                           
               
13.5) Wow, What a Coincidence; We Have So Much Not In Common by 
Sarah Greer     
14) The Shotgun Rules or a Fallopian Tuba Recital by Chris Stangl 
              
15) The Good Girls Never Leave by Bill Bungeroth                 
               
A damn fine show, if you ask me.                                 
               

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 03:35:42 GMT     IP: 152.163.207.79

That's an exageration, but I did figure out how to read the last 
couple of weeks of postings.
I'll respond here, though I have no idea who commented on what:
My facial hair- I'm flattered that you could even see it from the 
audience. This is not a "goatee", this is just what happens when 
I don't shave my chin for a long period of time. (It's been two 
months and three days, and it's almost visible now.) It'll 
disappear the moment I get bored obsessing over it.
My piece last week- Once again, I'm sorry about the eggs. I will 
do my best to make sure that no one will ever have to mop up a 
stage after me again.
My piece the week before- I never intended for this to be an 
"Anti-No Shame" piece. It started as a rant about missing my 
girlfriend and adjusting to Iowa City life then mutated and took 
on a life of its own.
I like No Shame Theatre, and I have great respect and admiration 
for the writers/performers/board members who make it happen every 
week. If the $1 entry fee goes toward rent and scholarships, I 
really can't criticize. The piece was about my changing point of 
view and a few things that struck me as odd, not meant as offense 
to you beautiful, beautiful people.

On a totally unrelated note, how come practically no one else 
e-mails in their scripts to be posted? I keep wanting to read 
things over after seeing them perfor

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 03:54:55 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

I don't post my scripts to the web because it's really freaking
easy for them to get plagiarized that way.  You can say "Copyright
1999 Sexy Heinie Productions" all you want, but that's not going
to stop some idiot from copying it and turning it in as his playwriting
assignment (or worse, trying to publish it without your permission).
Related to that is the fact that if you DO want to publish it,
having already "published" it on the web can cause a bit of a
sticky wicket.

And no, I don't want to see your sticky wicket.

As for Friday night, I thought it was pretty good.  The two obvious
standouts, as already mentioned, were the monologues by Chris and
James.  However, I am not entirely convinced that Chris really has a
sister named Cathy; I think he made her up and that bit about missing her birthday just so the
whole thing would seem all the sweeter and more out of character for him.  Even so, though, it
was still a great piece, and it shows off his adeptness and screwing around with the audience.  On
the other hand, maybe he does have a sister.  I invent paranoid theories like that.  For several
weeks last year I was convinced there was no actual person named "Jamal River," that he was a
composite created by those guys for their own amusement.  It turned out I was partially (though
only very partially) right, but still.  ok...chris's barb about dan's nose was tacky, but i must say the
second part was right on.  while the humiliating-the-ex-lover pieces have been funny, they're funny
in a mean way that made me uncomfortable, and I don't mean uncomfortable because they
challenged my notions of what theater is or anything.  And maybe dan didn't actually write them,
but we all know they wouldn!
't have happened without his ok.

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 05:26:23 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.198

1st, I want to say how pleased I am that the Egg Man has adopted 
his nick name. Kudos to you, Egg Man. I don't think you'll 
regret it.

And yeah-huh Chris has a sister. And yeah-huh her name is Cathy. 
Or Cathie, or however it's spelled. I SEEN her! She doesn't 
think I'm FUNNY! So there. And also, my name is too Jamal River. 
Lotsa people go by their middles names! Michael Stipe's first 
name is John, by gosh! My 1st name is not John. Michael Stipe, 
Jamal River. It's all the same. We're the same. I am Michael 
Stipe. He thought me up.

-Jamal River

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 18:13:53 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.27

:1st, I want to say how pleased I am that the Egg Man has adopted 
:his nick name. Kudos to you, Egg Man. I don't think you'll 
:regret it.
:And also, my name is too Jamal River. 
:Lotsa people go by their middles names! 

Of course the great mystery now is "What do the A. and M. in 
A.J.M. River stand for?  Tell us or we'll find a way of figgerin' 
it out for ourselves, AJM.

Time: Mon, 11-Oct-1999 18:19:38 GMT     IP: 128.255.109.5

I just want to say how much I enjoy No Shame every week, speaking 
as an audience member. I like everyone's pieces, especially Mike 
Rothchild. I think he's my favorite, but I like everyone

Jessica :-)

Time: Tue, 12-Oct-1999 05:09:57 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

:I just want to say how much I enjoy No Shame every week, speaking 
:
as an audience member. I like everyone's pieces, especially Mike 
:
Rothchild. I think he's my favorite, but I like everyone
:

:
Jessica :-)
:
Wow.  You're a girl, right?  Call Mike.  He likes girls.  I think

Time: Tue, 12-Oct-1999 17:23:05 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.218

::I just want to say how much I enjoy No Shame every week, 
speaking 
:
as an audience member. I like everyone's pieces, especially Mike 
:
Rothchild. I think he's my favorite, but I like everyone
:

:
Jessica :-)
:
Wow.  You're a girl, right?  Call Mike.  He likes girls.  I think

Hell, call *everyone* who likes girls.

Time: Tue, 12-Oct-1999 19:17:29 GMT     IP: 205.188.197.173

     From what little I've seen of his work and what little I've 
read of the online discussions, I would have to say that Mike 
Rothschild is on of the underglorified No Shame 
writers/performers. (I'm not saying this because I want him to 
call me if he's not interested in girls after all.) When I grow 
up, I want to write just like Mike Rothschild.
     In the meantime, I'm still writing like me, and I need two 
guys to play me in the piece I'm working on for Friday. Any 
volunteers for Fake Adam Hahn #1 and Fake Adam Hahn #2? E-mail me 
if you're interested, letting me know if you use your own 
computer and if it's a PC or Mac (this will determine how I 
format the script if I e-mail it to you) or if you live on campus 
(I might be able to talk to you like a real human being and give 
you a

Time: Tue, 12-Oct-1999 22:10:29 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.197


:What do the A. and M. in A.J.M. River stand for?

Ariel and Momar, I believe.  I believe this because I've seen his 
non-driver's IDentification card.

            Your Mother,
                Rev. Chris Stangl, funshine bear!!!

Time: Wed, 13-Oct-1999 02:25:45 GMT     IP: 128.255.111.29

: (I'm not saying this because I want him to 
:call me if he's not interested in girls after all.) When I grow 
:up, I want to write just like Mike Rothschild.

If I grow up, I want to write just like anyone who's not 
interested in girls after all.  Or interested in girls too.  Just 
don't call me.

Sincerely,
Dubiou$ $exuality Clark

Incidentally, I'm afraid Balls might be illustrating more in the 
way of a dubious sexuality than I am. Also, he's illustrating more 
in the way of balls than I am.  What a to-do.  A guy can't even 
pick a nerdy, mildly demeaning NS nickname for himself these days 
without feeling he's impinging on someone else's territory.

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 00:47:09 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.108

Reviewing Henry.
A festive and fussy review
by saucy and sassy Chris Stangl.

There is nothing as invigorating as performing for a sold-out 
house.  It's more exciting that they're not there to see "you," 
or even a "show," but to see some mythic NO SHAME THEATER that 
will never live up to the rumors and legends. Don't believe the 
hype but bring the noise.  And two friends.

Announcements) Kyle in top form, even mugging on a few new faces 
I've not seen him do before.  Such excellent timing on his paper 
airplane throw that I hadn't even noticed it was being folded.  
Terrifying, lung-tightening moment when all realize Brooks has 
not written a piece this evening_ for the first time since 
October 23, 1998!  More like March 26, 1999, but prior to THAT a 
year, and that has more spooky synchronicity and I'm a showman. 
Tttpt.

1) Okiishi- "An Attempt to Do as Dan Brooks Suggested"
Self-parody is dangerous.  It counts on everybody, loving you, 
deep down, to pull itself through the muck.  Likewise I admire 
anyone who will sacrifice their 5-alloted weekly minutes for a 
40 second piece_ It's selfless and always pays off.  I could 
never do it (I have never attended No Shame and not performed, 
if that tells you anything).

2) Smith- "Fose Fatfard vs A Dead Bee"
One million dollar grant to Brad Smith for writing this 
beautiful piece of letter-perfect Dada.  Made far richer by such 
moments as horrified expressions on actors' faces when they 
realized what the script said, and (as J.River pointed out) Dan 
blurting "What the hell is he DOING?" when Galbraith mimed 
eating a cookie.  And Horak's genius take on what it looks like 
to "hit his farts into a glass of pee."  I will never stop 
laughing at this until I'm grey and molded.

2.5) Rothschild/ Galbraith "Die Wichtigeit Earnest Zusein"
I will also never stop laughing at that clever and inventive 
Mike Myers circa when I was in 7th grade.  How does he come up 
with those characters!?

3) Angel- "I Want to Be Just Like Dan `Danger' Brooks"
Al's pieces are usually a big gross Freudian mess, but this was 
exceptionally eyebrow raising.  Angel pulls out his cap gun 
again.  The overuse of this prop- a prop, I should add, rooted 
in masculine power displays and destructive, "conquering" 
discharges- for increasingly more personalized attacks, has a 
single-minded nihilism.  While Al usually leaves his characters 
(often among them a, er, character named "Al" or otherwise 
unnamed) stranded in a sea of anal (Al says "shit" for ever time 
I think the word "poop"; "AssMasters" magazine), Oedipal (excess 
of father-sacrifice imagery, nevermind that "Why I Don't Watch 
Porn" is because of mom's adult film career) and most obviously 
oral (duh) fixations and anxieties, the ruler of the day is 
usually Al's tendency towards pronounced castration anxiety 
gags.  "I Want To Be" most prominently featured my personal most-
disturbing-Angel-image of a symbolically severed penis being 
fellated, Balls Campbell so horrified by what lay on the other 
end that he abolished it to the black pit.  Angel's work upsets 
me sometimes.

4) Sobbing/ Lane "Hostile Word Association"
I'm not positive that Lane has presented more faux-"homoerotic" 
material than the average NS performer.  At least of his five-or-
so pieces I've seen, of his seven-or-so pieces.  Awkward social 
comment at the end unnecessary (have the confidence of your 
material or don't) and derivative of the chilling end of Brooks' 
"Language of Brutality," but minus the wit.  Sketch didn't ever 
progress past its premise_ revealed in the title_ but that said, 
Granny nipple jokes are always welcome, and the face-humping was 
genuinely inspired and hilarious.

4.5) Schmidt- "Thank God (for Babies)"
I can't help it.  I don't like funny songs, and I'm biased 
against them.  As much as I like a joke about pee coming out of 
a person and getting all over, I'm not so big on cute baby-pee 
jokes.  These are personal problems, but THAT said, songs are 
necessary to break the evening up. Catchy, technically skilled_ 
so is Brittany Spears, of course.

5) Hague- "If You're Gonna Steal, Steal from the Best: A Blatant 
Rip-Off  of a Mike 
Rothschild Idea"
I don't think "a Star Wars parody" exactly counts as "a Mike 
Rothschild Idea."  As a general rule of thumb, I find parodies 
pretty distasteful, but this was thankfully briefer than 
Rothschild's 12-minute "Phantom Major," so Hague wins the Star 
Wars parody pod-race-in-my-heart by virtue of brevity.

6) River- "Mose Hayward and the Talking Booger"
However much you all enjoyed this piece- which was probably a 
lot, since it was tight, every joke worked, and tricked all your 
asses into thinking Jamal was doing a serioso piece- I enjoyed 
it 200 times more, since I got felt-up repeated, during and 
after the sketch.

7) Lange- "The Matchmaker"
I like character monologues.  What bothers me is that they don't 
tend to be performed very theatrically, and few folks really 
work the space as it is.  Kyle writes for himself very well_ 
also very static, lately.  Unfortunate, since "Sorority Girl 
`Saves'"' best quality was extensive physical performance and 
space-and-lighting shtick.

8) Clarke- "Oedipus, Then Wipe Your Chin"
Usually sorority girls are obvious, painful targets, but, for 
most of the piece, Clarke actually hits above the belt, with 
more solid complaints- re: disposable concern-of-the-moment 
politics, requisite public service- than the usual Greeks Are 
Superficial And Stupid material.  The sketch's mid-point twist 
didn't entirely snap it in half, but was more in the service of 
No Shame dirty jokes and goofy Galbraith faces than the social 
satire of pt. A.  That is, funny (because I like Clarke's sex 
jokes and watching Aaron Galbraith), but disharmonious.

9) Campbell- "German Chocolate Hate"
Neil Campbell is just funnier than everybody, so that's why I 
don't try anymore.  He didn't give himself the meatiest parts in 
"German"- which I'll never, never understand- but he's a joy to 
watch as a reactive performer.  Also his parody technique 
("American Tail"; "Sixth Sense") is more oriented toward minor 
gags and springboards to larger ideas than the usual noxious go-
nowhere treadmill/ empty pop-culture reference.

10) Hansen- "Knotty Pines, Pt. II"
"Pines" is teaching everyone valuable lessons about the merits 
and drawbacks of epic multiple-installment pieces.  It's been 
wisely structured in faux-cliffhanger format- the only sort of 
serial storytelling happening anymore- that's neat, because it 
allows Hansen to do a 20 minute piece w/out violating any rules 
or audience patience_ but continuing narrative wads separated by 
7 days require 60 second reorientation sessions.  For every gem 
of a joke ("I like those odds!!") there are three that get 
swallowed up by NS-style spontaneous blocking ("Stand by 
Yormann") or destroyed because you can't expect NS actors to be 
prepared.  I personally find any passing reference to "Diff'rent 
Strokes" automatically uproarious, so if the ambitious plotting 
gets in the way of the gags here and there, so be it.  I know 
I'm not directing Hansen's pieces, but to all peripheral actors: 
More ENERGY for fuck's sake.  What's wrong with you?  You KNOW 
you're in a broad-side-of-the-barn farce, right (this happened 
with Mark's die-cut-perfect 10-Minute Fest "True Love," last 
semester)? Act like you're having fun!  Watch Brad, Sheila and 
Balls for pointers.  They're mucho funny, se¤or!

10.5) Hall- "Part I"
I trust "Part I" is a metaphor, and that there isn't, say, a 
Part II, right?  Maybe it's because I don't speak Russian.  And 
have a short-attention span.  And picked up the motifs on shoes, 
mud, the Resurrection, coincident dates, fires and fathers_ but 
so?  And: most NS performers need lessons in silence and lulls.  
Some just need to be louder.

11) Mitchell- "Tattoo"
Good goofy Greg-voice.  So-so Zeus.  Glad to see Mitchell at 
work again_ there's not much space to breathe after revealing 
t

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 00:51:03 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.108

What's wrong with you?  You KNOW you're in a broad-side-of-the-
barn farce, right (this happened with Mark's die-cut-perfect 10-
Minute Fest "True Love," last semester)? Act like you're having 
fun!  Watch Brad, Sheila and Balls for pointers.  They're mucho 
funny, se¤or!

10.5) Hall- "Part I"
I trust "Part I" is a metaphor, and that there isn't, say, a Part 
II, right?  Maybe it's because I don't speak Russian.  And have a 
short-attention span.  And picked up the motifs on shoes, mud, 
the Resurrection, coincident dates, fires and fathers_ but so?  
And: most NS performers need lessons in silence and lulls.  Some 
just need to be louder.

11) Mitchell- "Tattoo"
Good goofy Greg-voice.  So-so Zeus.  Glad to see Mitchell at work 
again_ there's not much space to breathe after revealing that 
you're carrying Zeus' severed testes slung o'er your shoulder 
like a cotton-pickin' soldier, though.

12) Erwin- "I Bring You Theatre"
Slooooow wind-up from Erwin, and he blazes it across the plate. 
Unfortunate first-half. I'm not sure what Erwin was doing at the 
beginning. I presume some sort of Hitchcockian Set-Tone-Of-
Normalcy-To-Be-Disrupted-By-Ungodly-Acts, but whipping the 
audience into a frenzy doesn't set a tone for much other than 
frenzy.  So I presume some sort of Here-It-Comes,-Out-Of-Left-
Field structure, but something HAD to be coming, right?  Oh yes, 
yes, I forgot: fine character performance, already-rightly-
praised imagery and prose, which I will rightly praise again.  
Absolutely unforgettable gag-writing ("_and onto the small of my 
back!").  But that opening two minutes_.

13) Lawson- "The Pudding Sketch"
I would like to point out that any time someone spoke or MOVED in 
this piece, you all laughed.  Often even when no one was moving 
or speaking.  I want you to think about that, think about 
economy.  And think about Arlen Lawson's rump.

13.5) Greer- "Wow, What a Coincidence; We Have So Much Not In 
Common"
Greer's naturalistic performances- replete with scripted Ums and 
grammatical errors and half-sentences- always unnerve the 
audience.  I like that because the audience is never sure if 
she's forgetting her lines and they should be respectfully 
embarrassed and quiet or if she's In Character and they should 
laugh.  Hint: next time just laugh.  This piece was some creep-
ass shit, and reminds me there are endless ways to be spine-
jiggling.  In that way, it's a companion piece to Brooks' "Life" 
(you know- the Tooth Story), which aimed to be a squirmer through 
elegant brutality, while "In Common" gets all its chills through 
elegant awkwardness.

14) Stangl "The Shotgun Rules"
Blatant Lynda "Ernie Pook's Commeek" Barry rip-off.  I would like 
to point out that I was clearly using my script as a prop, not a 
prompter, and had the damn thing memorized, so I hope you all 
feel better.  Nacho Cheese Doritos probably not invented by July 
4, 1986.

15) Bungeroth- "The Good Girls Never Leave"
Surely someone is willing to point out that the electronic guitar 
was too loud to hear the vocals.  I could make out the lyrics 
with effort, but I sit in the front row.  It's nice to hear 
catchy pop songs at NS, because the only other person writing 
them is J. River.  This was a complex and lovely song, but I feel 
at an unfair disadvantage as a commentator because of sound mix 
problems.

Mediocre evening with jewels-within-pieces more than jewels-of-
pieces.  Also Jewel's "Pieces of You," which I nominate for ALL 
90 of the Decade's 90 Best Albums.

Poopla!
Rev. Chris Stangl, Tenderfart Bear.

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 01:36:18 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.108

Maybe everybody but Jamal and me's too scared to say this, but 
fuck ISCA.  Okay?  That thing is fucking horrid.  ISCA would be 
horrid compared to itself.  But we have something else to 
compare it to, and that's www.noshame.org's gorgeous-hole Board 
Room.

1) ISCA'S ELITISM
ISCA is so old that it's an insular community, No Shame forum 
not an exception.  I shan't gripe about the clique-y feel of 
Forum 97, because that folksiness is kind of an asset.  More 
importantly, there's a TECHNOLOGICAL elitism to ISCA, which 
isn't present here on the `site.  It takes DAYS to get an ISCA 
account.  You have to fill out forms and prove yourself and past 
some Herculean 12 Trials of ISCA, all of which consist of 
proving you're not going to Flame anyone or Harass anyone or 
Hurt Any Feelings and then you clean a horse stable.  Then they 
give you LIMITED posting abilities.

2) ISCA'S REPULSIVENESS
ISCA's complicated and antiquated, it's ugly and clunky and I 
can't figure out how to use it, and for aesthetic reasons, don't 
even want to.  Just looking at the way it blocks text is 
obnoxious, while I can do a fast cut-n-paste from my Word 
Documents onto the Board. Anyone claiming that thing is anything 
vaguely resembling post-1989 ideas of "User Friendly" has just 
been using it long enough to "figure it out".  I don't WANT to 
figure it out, not when there's a A1 forum right here requiring 
no figuring.  If you're still not buying the elitist argument, 
please note that there is such a thing as an "ISCA Archive."  
Website board posts are deleted, presumably forever.

3) ISCA'S NERDINESS
It's nerdier.  Just by virtue of how long you have to spend in 
front of a computer to post to the `SCA as opposed to the point-
n-click joys of this frothy little delight.

4) WEBSITE AWESOME
The Website is like No Shame 24 hours a day, with everything 
ISCA has to offer, none of the drawbacks, plus pictures, 
scripts, audio, history, links, almonds, pictures of me, and how 
is that inferior?  It was just complained (on ISCA) that the 
"Next" button in the Board Room works only occasionally_ which 
apart from probably being a problem with individual persons' 
browser (ours works fine), it's a piffly complaint next to, oh, 
say, that it's nigh impossible to revise and rework your text in 
ISCA.

5) THEY CALL MY BUTT MARIAH
Internet nicknames are dumb.  You may notice that except for 
Carl The Audience Me(mber), who I just don't know, but who is 
presumably named Carl, most Board Room posts are made under Real 
Names. I know who Jamal River is.  I like him. I know who 
Aprille and Adam is.  They're swell kids. I know who Nick Clark 
is. I had sexual relations with him.  I know who Fanky Maloonaro 
is, too, but I don't call him Fanky.  I don't know what a 
Whitewolf or a Squabaaro is .  Who the hell is Chamba-Lo, and 
why can't she use her real goddamn name if she wants to tell me 
how much she hated my piece?  How else am I supposed to hunt you 
down and slug you? No disrespect to ISCA users_ who include 
nearly everyone who posts here.  Your ISCA just cuts one in my 
face.

The Only Good ISCA is a Dead ISCA,
Chris Stangl, champoot bear

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 03:09:10 GMT     IP: 204.120.50.1

Speaking as the driving force behind first the abortive e-mail 
list and later the boardroom here, I also say, with joy in my 
heart, "Fuck ISCA, yo." No Shame's presence there dates back to 
the prehistoric past, which I was (viz. the archives) shamefully 
there for. I remain reluctant to completely sever NS's ties with 
ISCA, for the good lads there (and I use the term 'lads' in the 
'overwhelming majority of guys' sense, not the 'shorthand for guys 
and oh yeah, girls too' sense) 1) pour in lots of money that 
normal people spend on stuff like relationships and television to 
our coffers twice a year, and 2) serve as a useful reminder of our 
brutal past regardless of its intrinsic value, much like 
affirmative action or Archie Bunker reruns. 

That having been said, I dispute that the ISCA Archives serve as a 
tool of elitism. I would argue that, in fact, they serve a 
wonderful and elegant purpose, which is to archive ISCA posts.  We 
learn much about what No Shame was, about how people reacted to 
it, and about what people in the distant past of 1997 considered 
funny. Someday your grandkids will get down on their knees and 
thank Christ that those posts were archived. In 2050, people will 
write instantly-forgotten masters' theses about those posts. Plus, 
when some of us lose our scripts in the chaos surrounding moving/
breaking up/returning from jail, someone's half-ass review could 
jar our memory enough to reconstruct the entire script. As far as 
anyone would know, anyway. Christ knows some of my stuff could use 
some reconstructing.

So, there. Recap, ISCA bad, but worth remembering and worth 
keeping. 

James "18 users ahead of you in the queue" Erwin

ps- I freely admit that parting joke was technological ISCA 
elitism, but it was lame anyway, so let it go. 

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 20:41:30 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.82


               
:9) German Chocolate Hate by Neil "Balls" Campbell               
 

   Please insert review of #8, changing every "Aprille" to a 
"Neil" and every "she" to "he."

               
:10) Knotty Pines, Pt. II by Mark Hansen                         
 

   Now, change evry "Neil" in the review of #9 to "Mark"  Also, 
add the following somewhere in there: 
   "Ages 4 and up.  I like those odds."  

   Also, this week's was better than last week's Knotty Pines.  I 
am still waiting for the pun that I laughed at when I first heard 
the title.

:               
:10.5) Part I, by Dan Hall                                       
 

  I am not cultured enough to have enjoyed this piece as 
thoroughly as I might have, were I cultured.  That was redundant 
on my part and I apologize.  His foreignspeak was interesting 
but, to me, would have been equally interesting had he been 
reciting the pledge of Foreignspeakian allegiance.
               
:11) Tattoo by Greg Mitchell                                     
 

   I thought the most funny part in this was when he handed the 
bag o' testicles back to Zeus apologetically and not so much 
every time he said the word testicles, which is cheating because 
it is a funny word.

               
:12) Get Down on Your Fucking Knees, You Miserable Wretches, For 
I 
:Bring You     
:Theatre by James Erwin                                          
 

   I have nothing insightful to add here.  And while I was not 
daunted by this ever obvious fact in the previous 14 reviews, I 
am here daunted.  I liked the piece, though, in case you were 
wondering and I liked the most memorable line. 
               
:13) The Pudding Sketch by Arlen Lawson                          
 

   It needs to be noted that, after reading the sketch, it was 
Mark who gave me the title.  And as much as I liked it at the 
time, I now regret that the title was not "The Pudding Sketch 
Plus Dan Brooks."  Also, it seemed that the audience believed 
that the funniest joke in the piece was that Al was a little 
girl, which was not my joke.  It was, in fact, Chris who 
suggested Al for the part.  Also, if Al does not cast me in his 
piece this week, I will be forced to do bad things to him.

               
:13.5) Wow, What a Coincidence; We Have So Much Not In Common by 
:Sarah Greer     

   I remember some of this sketch but not if I liked it

:14) The Shotgun Rules or a Fallopian Tuba Recital by Chris 
Stangl 

   Return to post #9.  Remove every Neil.  Replace with Chris.  
Realize that this is still a cheap gimmic on my part.  Accept my 
apology.  Add that I did like this piece a lot and saying that it 
was not his best is stupid and unnecessary, as the fact that I 
don't say "His best work" should be enough to convey that he has 
done better.

:              
:15) The Good Girls Never Leave by Bill Bungeroth                
 

   Same complaints as everybody else made.  Also, same opinion 
that it was a good song.

   Well, that's it.  That's all.  That's all I have to say.  If 
you're thinking that you ought to hate me, please remember that I 
said a lot of nice things, too.

                 Arlen     
               

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 20:39:45 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.82

Ahem...

   So, here it is, my very first piece-by-piece review of a No 
Shame show.  Please note that I have always had opinions about No 
Shame pieces.  This isn't something new for me.  I've just been 
terribly afraid that people might hate me were I to share said 
opinions.
   Also note that it has been nearly a full week since the last 
show took place and a lot can happen in a week.  So, if I do say 
something that makes you think you ought to hate me, you can make 
yourself feel great by saying, "You know what?  He probably didn't 
hate my piece like he said he did repeatedly.  He was probably 
just confused, what with the fact that nearly a whole week has 
passed."

   So... Here we go, then.



:1) "An Attempt..."

   The title was the funny part.  But that goes without saying and 
makes me look like a twit for saying.  I didn't like 
"...truck-load of poorly decapitated beanie babies."  (The script 
is on the website if you'd like to see if you agree.)  I figure 
all that was required for the piece itself to follow the title and 
be funny was that it be a short monologue performed by Adam and it 
certainly followed through in that respect.

:2) Fose Fatfard vs A Dead Bee by Brad Smith                      

   I agree with everybody else about this piece.  It was certainly 
the best piece of the night, probably the best piece I have yet 
seen at No Shame, and potentially the best piece ever performed in 
the history of No Shame or the world.  Brad Smith is a genius.  I 
will repeat that.  Brad Smith is a genius.  I mean that.  Also, 
James Erwin was wonderful as Lieutenant Warf From Star Trek.


:2.5) Die Wichtigeit Earnest Zusein by Mike Rothschild and Aaron 
:Galbraith       

   This was, if I recall correctly, fun. I didn't do much 
laughing, but I certainly did some enjoying.  Somebody told me 
they thought Rothschild was very SNL influenced and, after 
analyzing this and the last piece he did, I have no choice but to 
completely agree.  Aaron, on the other hand, is just plain funny. 
 It was a tough break for them to follow history's greatest piece, 
though, and this probably explains why I did so much not laughing 
at them.


:3) I Want to Be Just Like Dan "Danger" Brooks by Hazard Angel    

   This piece was both fun and funny.  Also, it contained the 
second in-title Dan Brooks reference of the night and was only the 
fourth sketch.  I think every title should have a Dan Brooks 
reference.  Al seems to think I don't like his pieces, but I do.  
In fact, I liked this piece about as much as I was disgusted by 
the contents of the "Assmasters" magazine I accidentally caught a 
glimpse of before the show.  So that's a lot of liking.           
    

:4) Hostile Word Association by Chris Sobbing and Kehry Lane      

   I like some Kehry Lane.  I loved the Kehry Lane joke in "Fose 
Fatfard vs. A Dead Bee."  I wasn't incredibly fond of this sketch, 
but I was more than incredibly fond of a few of the jokes within. 
 I can't remember which of those jokes I liked or disliked, but if 
 he would post his script online, I would be able to tell him.  
Personally, I liked the little joke he made about the online 
discussion of whether or not he was Tom Green, but it was an 
inside joke for those who read these posts, so I must chastise.  
Also, it seems to have upset Carl, as he has not since posted 
here.   And that's a shame.  I thought he had some interesting 
things to say... especially the things about how I am such a 
wonderful person.
           
:4.5) A Song by Ben Schmidt                                       

   Loved the music.  Could give or take the lyrics.  Personally, I 
do not have or desire children and so was left out of all the 
inside jokes.  You are chastised. 
              
:5) If You're Gonna Steal, Steal from the Best: A Blatant Rip-Off 
:of a Mike      
:Rothschild Idea by John Hague                                    

   I liked this.  Other people I talked to didn't.  I liked it 
more the following day when I saw the commercial it was parodying. 
 One of the people who didn't like it said it was just an excuse 
to say, "poontang," but I disagree.  Of course, I did laugh when 
she said it.
   I did not like the title and for three reasons
1) It didn't seem to be a blatant rip-off of a Mike Rothschild 
Idea (I think Chris sais this a few posts back.)
2)I have issues with the idea that Mike Rothschild is "the Best." 
 Somebody here posted that Mike Rothschild is underrated.  I also 
have issues with that statement.  Please note that I do not have 
issues with Mike Rothschild.  I've liked a good percentage of the 
stuff he's done, but it seems to me that it is hit or miss with 
him.  While this really is the case with most No Shamers, myself 
included, he has before and continues occasionally to miss a lot 
harder than he hits, when he does miss.
   Oh, God, now he hates me.  And so do all his fans.  I knew I 
shouldn't have started this review.
3)If there is to be a reference to a No Shame Performer in the 
title of any sketch, then that performer ought to be Dan Brooks.  
I thought I'd mentioned that.  
               
:6) Mose Hayward and the Talking Booger by Jamal River            

   This was funny.  Of course Jamal is always funny.  That's what 
he does.  I liked how he tricked the audience at first.  I liked 
less how the audience felt the need to actually participate when 
he asked them to.  The punchline would have worked better if they 
hadn't.  I was reminded of one of the ten-minute plays last 
semester, the title of which I can't remember, and imagined how 
horrible it would have been if the audience had decided that they 
ought to answer the man's pleas for them to take action.
               
:7) The Matchmaker by Kyle Lange                                  

   I don't remember this piece well enough to make a post.  I 
remember Kyle onstage and that the first mention og forcing dogs 
to have sex was funny.

               
:8) Oedipus, Then Wipe Your Chin by Aprille Clarke                

   This I do remember.  And this I did like.  I did not like it as 
much as I liked other pieces what that Aprille did the writing of, 
but once again I've said what didn't need to be said, as she is 
absolutely hystericalarious.
               
:9) German Chocolate Hate by Neil "Balls" Campbell                

   Please insert review of #8, changing every "Aprille" to a 
"Neil" and every "she" to "he."

               
:10) Knotty Pines, Pt. II by Mark Hansen                          

   Now, change evry "Neil" in the review of #9 to "Mark"  Also, 
add the following somewhere in there: 
   "Ages 4 and up.  I like those odds."  

   Also, this week's was better than last week's Knotty Pines.  I 
am still waiting for the pun that I laughed at when I first heard 
the title.

:               
:10.5) Part I, by Dan Hall                                        

  I am not cultured enough to have enjoyed this piece as 
thoroughly as I might have, were I cultured.  That was redundant 
on my part and I apologize.  His foreignspeak was interesting but, 
to me, would have been equally interesting had he been reciting 
the pledge of Foreignspeakian allegiance.
               
:11) Tattoo by Greg Mitchell                                      

   I thought the most funny part in this was when he handed the 
bag o' testicles back to Zeus apologetically and not so much every 
time he said the word testicles, which is cheating because it is a 
funny word.

               
:12) Get Down on Your Fucking Knees, You Miserable Wretches, For I 
:Bring You     
:Theatre by James Erwin                                           

   I have nothing insightful to add here.  And while I was not 
daunted by this ever obvious fact in the previous 14 reviews, I am 
here daunted.  I liked the piece, though, in case you were 
wondering and I liked the most memorable line. 
               
:13) The Pudding Sketch by Arlen Lawson                           

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 21:10:28 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.82

   Is Egg Man related to Rob Hahn?

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 23:48:11 GMT     IP: 205.188.199.163

:::   Is Egg Man related to Rob Hahn?
:
:
:
:No
:

:

:
My mistake


'sokay, you're not the first person to ask. Hopefully I can clear 
up the confusion now once and for all.

Time: Fri, 15-Oct-1999 00:09:03 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.149

::::   Is Egg Man related to Rob Hahn?
:

No.  He is, in fact, the son (read: love child) of Cary J. Hahn, 
The Iowa Traveller and Jessica Hahn.  If he tells you otherwise, 
he is lying.  If he says he's not lying, that's his code-word for 
"kiss me," and you have to kiss him or he'll get so mad steam-
jets will shoot out his years.

           That charming stinker,
                       Rev. Chris Stangl!, Love-a-butt bear

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 21:34:43 GMT     IP: 152.163.206.179

:   Is Egg Man related to Rob Hahn?

No

Time: Thu, 14-Oct-1999 22:05:25 GMT     IP: 128.255.107.82

::   Is Egg Man related to Rob Hahn?
:
:No


My mistake

Time: Fri, 15-Oct-1999 23:17:43 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.145

I'm totally keen on your review, Arlick. I don't agree with you 
on all counts, but I'm totally keen on your review, Arlick. It 
was a fun read. You should review EVERY show and you better or 
else! you! Fella! Yeah! Some things I remember diagreeing with 
were: 

-I DID feel it was one of Neil's best pieces. I mean, I like all 
the Neil pieces, but I thought this one was great! I lovey! And 
Mike as the Keiser was fantagood!

-I didn't mind the audience participation in my skit. I thought 
it was funny. But I was mostly pleased with tricking the audience 
into thinking I was being sincere for a minute, which you already 
mentioned.

I can't think what else you said, Fartlen. Oh well, your review 
was fab, I want to marry it. 

-Jasmals

Time: Sat, 16-Oct-1999 14:53:11 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

so i feel like an asshole for skipping the show just cause i didn't manage to get into the order.  I
could write a post longer than the reverend stangl's piece-by-piece reviews saying why i was so
frustrated, but I won't.  i felt the vibe that a lot of people had written really good stuff, but if you
tell me the show sucked i will be much more gratified.

Time: Sat, 16-Oct-1999 16:37:03 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

The show was decent.  i had a good time.  it was short, which was great; it started off a little
slow, but picked up toward the end and had some good stuff.  i was especially impressed by the
newcomer whose name i think is anwar unless i'm thinking of the president of Egypt.  maybe
they're both named that.  Anyway, it was the thing about not wanting to go to heaven.  it's very
rare that a first-timer does a good serious piece, and i liked his.  it was also good because he was
cute and nervous and i love that in a person.  i didn't really like kyle's piece so much--good idea,
but it didn't come together as well as that premise could have.  in the end, it was just trying to be
funny, which is exactly what almost all sketches do (including kyle's), so i guess i missed the
point.  hm...i liked dan's trans-am piece, especially the line about how when (oh god, what was his
name?  Jordan Roberts?  or is that from hemingway?  you know who i mean) zooms by in his
trans am and you can f!
eel it in your underwire.  good.
Also...hm...the juxtaposed supervillain/superconservative things--excellent use of props.  i also
would like to mention that i think mark hansen is the most underrated writer at No Shame,
because the reason his stuff often doesn't go over so well is because too smart for the audience. 
plus, as the rev. mentioned, "mark writes real jokes."  a lot of people can't handle that.  neil's
abortion one made me laugh aloud.  i hope jamal does his mad-libs for the kiddies tonight.  that'd
learn 'em.  chris made me itch for real.  i can't think of anything else just now.  bye.

Time: Sat, 16-Oct-1999 18:27:35 GMT     IP: 206.150.222.206

I just wanted to be the first one to say the Balls' piece was 
bar-none the greatest and funniest piece of the night.  In 48 
hours this will be a cliched thing to say, because its true and 
everyone will, so now you can all be jealous of me 'cause I'm a 
trend setter.
--Orgasmic Octopus

Time: Sat, 16-Oct-1999 20:30:55 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.223

I thought the show stank it up a fair ammount. Didn't laugh much.

But:
I liked Chris' monologue.

I liked Aprille's piece.

I liked the trying to get into heaven piece pretty well, 
especially for a serious piece.

I loved watching the Egg Man comb his hair with a razor for 3 
minutes.

I surely liked Neil's piece. Octopie mang: yes it was the 
funniest piece of the night, but Neil has the funniest piece of 
every night so this is not big news. Neil is the funniest man I 
have ever seen with my own two eyes. When he did his dance, I 
laughed till I was on the floor. Neil is preposterously funny.

The Naughty Pine sketch was my favorite of the series so far.

So anyway, I guess that's a fair ammount of stuff I liked, and 
there were a few others I liked OK, but overall I thought the 
show was lack luster and uninspired. (Got bored during the 
hiding a body sketch, got bored during the piece Willy always 
does about sexy waitresses, got grossed out during the piece Al 
always does where he says disgusting things into me ears.)

And yes, I really am doing a skit for 50 junior high kids 
tonight, but no I'm not doing the piece I did last night. 
Because I like my job and am hoping to keep it for awhile.

Nick, I think you picked a good night to miss. And having read 
your skit, it would have been funnier than most of the stuff I 
saw.

-River 

Time: Sun, 17-Oct-1999 02:30:51 GMT     IP: 205.188.199.169


  i also would like to mention that i think mark hansen is the most underrated writer at No Shame,
because the reason his stuff often doesn't go over so well is because too smart for the audience. 
plus, as the rev. mentioned, "mark writes real jokes."  a lot of people can't handle that. 
 
Maybe Mark should"dumb his jokes down" for us in the audience "too stupid" to get them. Face
it, they're not over our heads, they're just not funny. Mark is vastly overrated (in this reviewer's
opinion) and his sketches should be left out in the future to leave room for up-and-comers much
more imaginative than he, like  Arlen Lawson or Nick Clark. These "real jokes" he writes are are
a poor man's version of  The Marx Brothers, Woody Allen, and whatever else you can think of
(this whole Naughty Pines thing is just a cheap imitation of Rocky and Bullwinkle, I swear to
God.) Of course, this is just my opinion. 

Time: Sun, 17-Oct-1999 03:16:24 GMT     IP: 24.4.252.113

:Of course, this is just my opinion. 

Wow.  Harsh.  I've always preferred the constructive criticism 
approach myself.

Time: Sun, 17-Oct-1999 05:25:56 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.25

Actually, I never said the audience was "too stupid," so i'd appreciate if the impression were not
given that i said such a thing.  maybe i should rephrase anyway, though.  i had a playwriting class
with Mark Hansen and he always had us positively rolling around, hooting with laughter (the
rolling around part was actually unrelated, but that's another story).  I was just putting in my bit to
say that maybe No Shame isn't exactly the right forum for Mark's work.  It's cerebral stuff--maybe
in the same vein as Woody Allen/Rocky and Bullwinkle, but not a ripoff.  No Shame is generally
speaking not a place in which subtlety gets a lot of laughs.  Mark's stuff is absolutely hilarious
when it's well-timed, well-rehearsed, and well-directed.  Unfortunately, No Shame is not really
suited to the aforementioned criteria.  And, by the way, one writer's presence at No Shame in no
way results in another's absence; getting your stuff in is just about being in the lounge on time and
getting !
your script in the appropriate
board member's face.  Mark is my friend and I just wanted to give my opinion on how really well
his stuff can work.  No, he didn't make me write this, although that reminds me of a story...

Time: Sun, 17-Oct-1999 06:50:57 GMT     IP: 205.217.148.123

Mark Hansen is a beautiful person. I love him like a brother. And 
I for one think he is damn funny. I shudder to think of his 
tender little self reading those cruel words that were written 
about him. Mark, you're aces and don't let anybody tell you 
different! Yeah, buggy, you go! 

Mark doesn't load his skits with cursing and sex jokes like, 
well, every single other person at No Shame. He doesn't go for 
the cheap laughs. I admire him for it. Plus, he's cute as the 
dickens. And very clean. And that's all I have to say about that.

P.S. In case anybody's wondering, I did the Jr. High slumber 
party (Chris and I did a skit, then I was a DJ for 2 hours) and 
it was hell. Although Jr. High kids are shorter than I remember, 
they're just as asshole-ish as I remember.

MARK HANSEN 4 EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time: Sun, 17-Oct-1999 14:50:07 GMT     IP: 128.255.56.4

Whoever this heather person is, I don't like her.  Sure she called me an up and comer, but I call
myself that every morning in the shower.  Nevermind.  Anyhow, Mark Hansen is the writer whose
work I admire the most at No Shame, and telling him to make room for me is like telling Jack
Nicholson to make room for that younger actor who wishes he was Jack Nicholson.  That was a
lousy comparison in more than 200 ways.  How many can you count?  It would be like telling
Groucho to make room for Zeppo. Like telling the Ramones to make room for the Offspring.
Like telling sushi to make way for burritos.  like telling bats to make way for mice with hang
gliders.


I am mortified that I missed the best Knotty Notty Naughty Natty Pines so far.

Time