Sep 22, 1998 23:52 from Psychicpajamas
I recently obtained my own cable access show... and I'm looking for actors to
portray has been, washed up actors and actresses, it will be very ad-lib and is
intended to be funny... I expect to take on many different skits... similar to
No Shame...  I'm thinking... like "Dragbrai 98"... having drag queens on
excercise bikes, drunk and haggard, with the background flying backwards behind
them... in addition to other ideas, like a judge judy segment where I, Wilma
Titzgro preside over dueling roommates...  I think it could be fun... anyone
interested?
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Sep 23, 1998 10:46 from Ender
 
So I'm hearing nothing but good things about Cloud 9 (which is the mainstage
slated for Mabie Theatre).  When does that go up?  Anything else happening in
the theatre building?
 
I'm also jonesin' for a dance concert, but haven't heard anything. If y'all
know of one, please post information..
 
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Sep 23, 1998 10:50 from Alethe
i can't find cloud nine's openig night date exactly but it is in three weeks.
and yes, it wil be an exceptional show from how it is sounding.
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Sep 23, 1998 15:59 from 
Cloud 9's opening date is October 15 which is a Thursday.  I have tickets to
see it on the 16th and have only heard good things about it too...*is excited*
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Sep 26, 1998 00:47 from Alethe
The order.....
1) By James Erwin- by James Erwin
2) Bil by Brad Smith
3) This falls on the WB by Brian Luecky, Eric Richmond, and Jeff Stephens
4) Cuandos algo asi, notas lo mal que es vivir by mose hayward
5) Angry haikus for a post modern world by mandi lee
6) Shkespeare must be ejaculating in his grave by mike cassady and aaron
galbraith
7) I wrote me some lines for a play by moses helmell
8) gone to pot with the DI Walt Stein
() Heavy Metal Show by MIke Rothschild
10) Where jokes come from or c'mon Billy i'll explain it to you in the shed by
dan brooks
11) She said: Breast feeding was invented by a man- I love feminists like they
love me by peter franke
12)My Head or not the first no sham piece inspired by morphine by dan brroks
13) a reading by george anastasiou
14) we sold our souls for jelly rolls by mike rothschild
 
(sorry i got lazy and left out caps towards the end, nothin meant by it)
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Sep 26, 1998 09:33 from King Of Kale
Personally, I absolutely loved Angry haikus for a post-modern world by mandi
Lee.  I've had to write haikus for poetry projects and such, and they ended up
sounding a lot like that, but less funny.
Heavy Metal Show was also rather amusing.
Gone to pot with the DI was the only one I can think of offhand that I didn't
particularly care for.  Both Walt's tone and the type of humour seemed to ruin
it for me.  I'm really sick of Clinton-Lewinsky stuff, so if you really want to
annoy me, you know what to do at the next No Shame.
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Sep 26, 1998 11:13 from Ender
 
On the other hand, even a tired subject can be done better than that.  Last
week there were three pieces that referenced the scandal, and they were
tremendously better than Walt's piece.
 
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Sep 26, 1998 11:12 from Alethe
i think my favorite piece of hte evening was Dan's my head piece.  It reminded
me of tom waits somehow.  The drumming was pretty cool during it too,
definitley made it better.  good stuff.
I like #4, moses piece alot, but what i epsecially liked about it is the
character's complete disregard for each other. " Edna?"  Beautiful.
I would have ot secind the comment about Walt stein's piece.  I felt like it
went slow, alot of hte jokes were ones i had heard before, and due to previous
no shame's plungers on stage are a little disconcerting (heehee)
I feel like mike rothschild's work is improving. Yanni (sp?) sketch was pretty
great.  My only criticism of him is that soemtimes the jokes go too long, if he
trimmed up his timimng his pieces would go over even better than they do now.
But he is definitley gettin gmore used ot the forum and i enjoy his work.
great week.
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Sep 26, 1998 11:57 from Alethe
i forgot to sing my praises of Brad Smith's piece , Bill.  That was pretty
great.  A little abstract and bizarre, but delivered with a genuine honesty
which made it pretty damn funny.  And fr the first attempt at writing a nos
hame monologue, it was pretty wonderful.
James as an angry parent.....heehee
What did people think about the Shakespeare must be ejaculating hin hid grave
piece.  I iddn't know what to make of it.  Anyone else?
the show in general or specifically?
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Sep 26, 1998 14:57 from Fanky Maloon
I thought it was a good night overall.  As a summary, I really really liked
about 6 of the pieces, thought another 3-4 were good, but alas there were
several that really stunk up the place.  Not trying to be crass, but most
people I was with felt it was a dud of a No Shame night, even though they
admitted that there was many a fine piece performed upon further interrogation.
A few stinkers can really cloud one's judgement of the whole evening.
So as a whole, a mixed bag, with more good stuff than bad by a significant
margin.  The specifics:
 
1.  James' as the Mom - short but sweet.  The man has stage presence in
bundles.  Only critique - the "smiley face" thing was a bit reminiscent of one
of Dan's pieces last semester that made it to best of, the letter from Dan to
No Shame, using a "there's a little smiley face" trick.
 
2.  Brad S. - I like the performer, but I couldn't hear a lot of this one.  I
think he was nervous, and that this served to rather screw up the monologue for
me.  The same person was much cooler later when "performing", but I didn't
think this was a very good read and didn't get much out of it.  Thought it
kinda killed some audience enthusiasm.  Maybe if he stood up when reading a
monologue? Hmm.
 
3.  WB - A pretty clear cut case of something that seemed like it had promise,
and then just got stupid.  The guys had decent stage presence, but there was
really no tangible punch line.  Rather a dud, alas.  Though there was something
amusing about that idiotic dance they did.  On a minor level. ;)
 
4.  Mose's piece with George and friend (if possible, can we go back to having
people post not only the writer but the names of the performers?  I really dug
that...) - Very good stuff.  Well performed and written.  Weird, kinda gross,
intellectual in some cases.  Just what No Shame calls for, if not an actual
"blockbuster".  Good stuff.
 
5.  Angry Haikus - this was a damned hoot and a half.  Haikus are always good
for a chuckle by me, and the "come out of the closet....DAN" had to be one of
the best lines of the  evening.  Good stuff!
 
6.  Shakespeare ejaculating - sheeoot.  I have lost track of which was which
between this and the next piece.  I'm thinking this was the one with the three
guys and the gay porn theater?  If not, correct.  But the gay porn guys well.
They had some stage presence, but man.  This was a dud of a piece.  Not a dud
start to end, but once it went flat, it went _really_ flat, and there was no
rescue in sight.  It was basically a one-joke piece, and not a very good one at
that, if you ask me.
 
7.  Wrote me some lines - assuming this was the "sad/gorilla conclusion" piece,
I thought it was pretty good.  Kept my attention, didn't completely enthrall or
tickle me, but kept me entertained while it lasted.
 
8.  Daily Iowan - yah, this one blew.  Way too long.  I'm guessing this
performer hadn't been to No shame before?  It just seemed like a pretty clear
cut case of someone not being prepared for the forum, the conventions etc of No
Shame.  Political humour almost never goes over.  Much less when "performed"
from behind a script in journalistic near-monotone.  Much less when you throw
in completely pointless props as a possible recipe for even more disastrous
results...
 
9.  Heavy Metal - Very much a hoot.  Brad was absolutely hilarious as the
roadie, he really stole this piece.  If Mike hadn't been cracking up as Yanni,
and if they'd have shortened it up a bit, this coulda been golden.  As it is,
it was still damned funny and gets a big thumbs up from me.
 
10.  Dan's first one - got one of the other "best lines of the evening" award
with the "farewell to arms" joke.  That is some seriously good shit.  As for
the dramatic part, I can't do more than shrug at it.  It's unclear if this
actually did happen to Dan for one or if it's a play on the audience; and if it
did happen, of course there's the question of whether or not it is this abuse
which would necessarily make Dan a funny guy.  But it isn't as though one has
time to explore all of those avenues in the 5-minute timespan while still
entertaining us, so there it goes.  I'm usually left a bit confused by these
"combination" pieces of Dan's; wondering if I'm supposed to believe it/
wondering if I'm supposed to feel sympathy/ wondering if I'm being played the
fool by believing it if I do...etc.
 
11.  Peter's Song - Alas, I couldn't make out a single word of it.  He seemed
to be jamming away so quickly that he wasn't focusing on enunciating (as though
I can remotely talk here, but hey).  So for me, though I dig Peter and his
songs, this was unfortunately a big dud.
 
12.  Dan's Head - rather trippy indeed, if not entirely tangible.  Kept my
attention, kept me entertained, but didn't set me afire.  Good imagery, yis.
 
13.  George's friend's poem - way cool poem.  Decent read.  Good, but I guess
on the whole I'm not a big fan of poetry in theater (aside from in jest, of
course) unless it works spectacularly well.  Maybe he shouldn't have stood ont
he table?  Hmm.  I think it would have been more personal if he's have stood on
the ground instead.  Beer and raisins.  mmm hmm. 8)
 
14.  Mike's soccer boy piece - this kicked my ass pretty well.  I really got
into it.  Very intricately woven, the racial slurs and commentary.  Performed
by both Mike and Mandi with a great deal of enthusiasm and with _excellently_
timed lines.  They're both good enough that they didn't try reading a line over
laughter - nicely done.  One of my favorites of the night easily.  Is Mike new
this semester?  I like what I've seen from him, definitely.
 
 
Other random note - so did Dan purposely miss his cue this time, for the joke,
or is he genuinely so brain dead that he _consistently_ misses his cue to come
on stage? ;)
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Sep 26, 1998 15:21 from Thufir
The theme tonight was clearly "Simian Sex", or something along those lines.
All Friday night I felt like I was on a bad acid trip.
 
What stands out most for me is that Mandi's piece was my favorite of the night.
Bitchin' writing, excellent performing, good timing, priceless.  Bravo.  An
easy early vote for Best Of from me.  My only gripe is that when it gets
re-performed the look on Dan's face when he reads the haiku about himself is
going to be difficult to re-enact...  hee hee.
 
I didn't know what to make of the Shakespeare-ejaculation piece either.  I
don't think it was intended to be a slam on gay people, certainly, given the
disclaimer at the start.  It was amusing in an irreverent sort of way.
 
The skit with the guy "reading" the newspaper on the toilet was easily the
worst of the evening.  It's hard for me to be too hard on the guy, he seemed to
me to be a first time performer and I hate to rip into those.  But nearly every
aspect of the piece could have been improved substantially.  I honestly don't
think the jokes were that incredibly old and tired -- but with his delivery, he
pretty much could have mangled just about anything.  IMJO.  Needs much work.
 
The last piece cracked me up, although I wasn't sure if the constant racial
slurs were supposed to be some kind of social commentary or what.  But, fuck,
they made me laugh.  That's what's important here.
 
Everything else was pretty good.  Worth my dollar and my time.  Definite
improvement in No Shame over the last couple of weeks.  I'm proud of y'all.
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Sep 26, 1998 15:35 from Thufir
(Oh, I forgot to mention Dan's first piece, with the Where Humor Comes From.  I
have no idea why, since this utterly floored me, especially the "Randy Reiners:
Back Door Quarterback" bit.  And I like that he manages to fairly-seamlessly
integrate seriousness and humor in his skits.  It's enough to make you laugh,
but it also makes you think.  Something I appreciate.)
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Sep 26, 1998 16:24 from Psychicpajamas
This was my first time attending No Shame.  I was disappointed in the humor.  I
found that most of it was pretty weak and relied heavily upon inside jokes that
most people didn't understand... like the dan being gay stuff?  I apologize, I
just didn't get it.  Though, I do, indeed, intend to unveil some of my own
stuff there, I'm going to wait for a bit... I realize that there are probably
off and on nights for no shame, so I think that I'll chalk it up to a weird
night.  Anyway, I found the soccer practice piece to be shocking and funny, at
the same time... what I had originally thought No Shame was about...  It was an
interesting night.
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Sep 26, 1998 19:11 from Fanky Maloon
Psychicpajamas>
Regarding the line about Dan coming out...I didn't think that was an inside
joke at all.  The line "why don't you come out of the closet...Dan" is about as
self-explanitory as it gets.  And thus why the entire audience was in an uproar
of laughter after the line, save a few such as apparently yourself.
I'm no fan of inside humor at all, but I guess I didn't think there was
anything "inside" going on this particular No Shame.  This is the first No
Shame I've managed to attend this semester, and I didn't feel I missed out on
anything...
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Sep 26, 1998 19:14 from Lord Stave
I won't waste my time commenting on every skit here, since it looks like
they've already been picked apart in laborious detail.  A few notable things in
my mind-
 
I'm going to back Thufir up on the "Simian Sex" thing, is this getting to be a
No Shame tradition?  Between last week's "sweaty monkey" jokes and this week,
we're seeing an awful lot of monkey jokes.  Not that they aren't amusing, I'm
just worried that they might become old hat by BONS time.
 
Guy on the toilet- This was one of those "Damn, it looked good on paper"
pieces.  I think if something had actually happened, perhaps interaction with
another character, and if it had been shorter by about, say, 3 minutes, it
might have been a "C+" piece.
 
Heavy Metal- Needless to say, this was in-fucking-credible.  Are we going to
see a follow-up of any sort?  Maybe a battle of the bands type thing- Gonorrhea
vs. Vomit or something.  I disagree with the earlier comment that Brad as the
roadie stole the piece- I think everyone there did an outstanding job.
 
10-10-10-321- Another great one, Mandi's line about "when the Master Race rises
up from the ashes" was awesome.  This one was worth the price of admission on
its own.  The only thing I was disappointed in was when I heard "Johnson
Carbonated Beverages" I immediately thought "Johnson county" and expected Iowa
City/Coralville water jokes.  Nonetheless an excellent piece.
 
 I think this week was a bit of a comedown after last week, but there's still a
lot of potential BONS material to be found.
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Sep 26, 1998 20:36 from Alethe
About Mike rothschild he is new this semester at no shame and is getting
ot be more familiar with the
forum and how to make us laugh, which is great.  But i am with fanky
or who ever said it, that the
death metal piece woul dhave been gold if it had been tightened up timing wise,
a small but crucial difference.  He 's doing some great work and i expect it
will only get better.
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Sep 27, 1998 08:06 from Frogczar
You will have to excuse my performance at this last week's No Shame, I must
say that you only heard 10% of the song because that was all I managed to play
because a string broke after 7 seconds. I will not describe the confusion and
ensuing improvisation that occured, other then to say, Yeesh. I would like
to perform it properly sometime, so that A. Everyone can hear me B. My
Guitar is in prime playing shape and C. its been practiced to the point of
perfection. I'm really sorry. Thank you for clapping at all. Hats off to
Dan, as always you own the show.
Great night, Fucking Madman.
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Sep 28, 1998 00:35 from Alethe
October 3 is the 12th aniversary of no shame theatre
this i ahve been told and am passing iton to y'all
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Sep 28, 1998 07:44 from Alice From Hell
Does that mean we get to spank everyone on the board twelve times?
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Sep 28, 1998 08:27 from Thufir
No.
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Sep 28, 1998 08:41 from Carolyn
Whoops.  When we were putting together the Best of the Best of NS, we were
under the impression that the first NS was Oct. 10, 1986.  I wonder if we
included that (wrong) information in the program.
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Oct 3, 1998 18:38 from Ender
 
Okay...  coupla random comments-- that Kyle fellow (Lizard Boy) has distinctive
presence.  The flycatching was well done, and his father-making-fun-of-son
thing was too (the dancing around with the voice).  Some people have a wider
range of movement and energy than others, and he's one of those who seems less
confined than most.
 
Ben's songs rocked, as always.
 
Dan's fly was fascinating to watch.  The stop-and-start walking, the
eye-washing--right on target.  He could easily have ended the piece without
debunking it right after, but it was a choice.
 
The security guards piece (twin brothers interviewing for mall security jobs)
needed help.  I could see what they were trying to do in places, but it wasn't
really coming across.  Something about timing (your friend and mine).
 
Dan's piece with Peter doing backup on bass was simply too cool.
 
The piece about how to do comedy (by Mike Rothschild, I think..?) had some good
moments.  Somehow the stage-audience connection wasn't as solid as it could
have been though, and it may have just been the night itself.  The audience
energy (oooh! new age!) felt low or off, myself included.  Still, a fun piece.
 
I thought Mose's piece with the writer describing the landscape was really
good.  I want to read it.  (Send scripts to NoShTh@aol.com so we can all
enjoy!)
 
The God piece (another take on the creation) was one of the funnier of the
night, and then turned into one of the less-appreciable.  Minor point: "What
the fuck is a cubit?" isn't far enough from Bill Cosby's "What's a cubit?" line
in his retelling of the Noah story to be considered a new joke--but it's also
simple enough as jokes go that maybe it was a coincidence.  And then the
comment about Jews which I didn't quite hear was apparently a bit much, and I
just didn't know the guy well enough (not at all, in fact) to know how to take
the comment about "disciple" meaning "queer butt-lover."  The other two actors
in the skit were in the piece last week where they included a disclaimer that
they don't actuallly have a problem with gay people, but something about the
line managed to make me uncomfortable anyway.  And of course, no one has to
agree with anyone else on issues to perform at No Shame, but it is still
possible to alienate one's audience by expressing one's views there.
 
Those are just the pieces that occur to me at the moment.  Anyone else?
 
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Oct 3, 1998 20:02 from Lord Stave
Dan was in top form for both pieces.  The Mel's Diner piece was stronger than
the Fly, I think, but the Fly was excellent on its own.
 
I thought "The Book of Life" part of the skit of the same name was excellent.
If it had ended with the call of arbitrary use of guilt (or whatever the hell
it was) it would have been perfect.  As it was, I think the "how to do comedy"
dragged it down.
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Oct 3, 1998 20:06 from Lord Stave
Oh yeah, forgot to mention- Lizard Boy was excellent, I hope we see more of
him.
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Oct 5, 1998 22:26 from Ender
 
Wow, that must have been a really unremarkable show.  No remarks in here,
anyway...
 
Is the order still floating around somewhere?  That might assist old people
like me with memory problems.  Or maybe it's not age; must have been all that
liquor in high school..
 
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Oct 6, 1998 19:34 from Dan
Brothers and sisters, I bring you the order.
1) Lizard Boy: The Beginning by Aprille Clarke
2) Enter Dramatis Personae by Steve Ellerhoff and Mark Hanson
3) The Fly Piece by Dan Brooks
4) Lizard Boy Hits Puberty by Aprille Clarke
5) Dish by Adam Burton
6) Still by Mandi Lee and Tane Kawasaki
7) A Mi, Este Tipo de Arte No Me Die Nada por Mose Hayward
8) Lizard Boy's First Date by Aprille Clarke
9) Another Linguistics Lesson by Chris Okiishi
10) The Bible According to Chode or Jesus Must Be Spinning In His Grave by
James Horak
11) En Memoria de Cuatro Rosas by Mose Hayward
12) The Book of Life by Mike Rothschild
13) Angry Mouth in Mel's Diner by Dan Brooks
14) Me Singin' by Ben Schmidt.
Fresh from a hidden cave in Nepal. Tibet is so passe.
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Oct 6, 1998 22:03 from Carolyn
What was Ben singing about?
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Oct 7, 1998 08:39 from Ender
 
One song was a familiar standard of his ("...and I know even less about a thing
called love; they say it's blind, and rocks like thunder.  To me that sounds
like Stevie Wonder..") and the other one was unfamiliar to me, about the "long
way home" or "coming home" or something like that.  But the vocals were really
smooth (serious song, in case the phrases didn't convey that), and the
guitar-playing showed more finesse than ever.  Fatherhood must be agreeing with
him...
 
What was Mose's first piece?  The second one stuck in my head so firmly I can't
see the other one...
 
Also, I forgot to mention Chris' piece earlier.  I thought his ending had big
oomph.  "So it's no wonder that at the end of a long day of mild
misunderstandings and tensions, when you say `I love you.' [pause]  `I love
you.'   ...I have absolutely no idea what you mean."  Or something like that.
He kicks butt.
 
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Oct 7, 1998 10:49 from Dan
I'm not sure what order they came in, but Moses pieces went like this: One with
a father telling his son that he's stupid and inferior, and one about the
writer looking for phrases to describe mountains and roses. My bet is for
"Cuatro Rosas" being the one about the writer.
In my opinion, both of Moses pieces this week reflected a subtle but important
shift into more theatrical pieces. I dig that, too; his sketches have always
been excellent, but I think this week's work was a cut above. Hoo-ray for Mose.
(For best effect, the preceding phrase should be pronounced "Hoo-ray for
Mo-say.")
Incidentally, the Spanish translations of them thar piece titles go like this:
7) To Me, This Kind of Art Says Nothing
11) In Memory of Four Roses
Tell me this guy isn't having the classic sketch/theatre crisis.
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Oct 7, 1998 12:00 from Ender
 
Right!  I forgot that Mose was the "kid" in the father/son thing, 'cause Kyle
was so animated he took over the stage.
 
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Oct 7, 1998 12:05 from Avenue Player
yeah, isn't kyle cool?  i'm trying to drag him to No Shame more often, because
he's just a natural for that kind of thing, i think.
 
and i agree, i found chris's (i never know how to make posessive those names
that end with s) piece extremely powerful.  he switched gears so suddenly (from
discussing relative meaning, profanity in foreign language, all done
humorously) to this quiet moment that just hit me in the gut.  oof.  but in a
good way, ya know?
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Oct 8, 1998 01:46 from Jeff
Mose' script (En Memoria a Cuatros Rosas) is up on the No Shame web site
(http://www.noshame.org)
Go to Iowa City's Script Library
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Oct 8, 1998 20:06 from Fanky Maloon
 
October is good No Shame month, I believe.  Always has been a hot one, and I'm
way stoked for tomorrow night.  I have purchased a ridiculous hat in
preparation, and have stuff to perform, yay!
 
And though Aprille will be absent, I believe several others have good stuff a
comin'.  Stoke stoke stoke.
 
Who else has stuff?  Talk talk, stoke stoke.
(that's a horrific verb, if it's even a word, I realize.  Stoke.  Ick)
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Oct 8, 1998 23:10 from Psychicpajamas
I will be performing this no-shame...
 
I am doing a piece that I will refer to as the JFK Bullet Bra Theory...  it
should be interesting.. I hope everyone likes it.
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Oct 8, 1998 23:14 from Thufir
I hope I do, at least.  I could give a shit about everyone else.
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Oct 9, 1998 10:42 from Dan
Greg, when are you going to stop doing everything to please other people all
the time? It's just not healthy, you know.
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Oct 9, 1998 10:44 from Thufir
I know, I know.  I need to stop thinking me, me, me, and start thinking ME, ME,
ME.  *shakes head*  When will I learn.
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Oct 10, 1998 00:38 from Redbird
 
Hrm.  I didn't see a single skit I liked.  Except maybe Rob's rendition of
"Sucks to Be Me" out by the river.....
 
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Oct 10, 1998 00:42 from Dan
I saw a lot of work I liked. I'll do a point-by-point when the order comes up,
but I particularly liked Greg's "I Hate You" song and I enjoyed the structure
of Mose's piece. So there.
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Oct 10, 1998 01:37 from Psychicpajamas
I thought it was a good night... there was nothing that bored me.  Though I
think that what's his name should get his facts straight before going off ona m
monologue about being black and begging...  First of all, Central Park is in
Manhattan... ...speaking as an ex resident of NYC...
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Oct 10, 1998 02:07 from Alethe
The Order
.5) The Bus by Satori Snow
1)Discovery Science Investigations by Greg Mitchell
2) It's a play, goddammit! by Elsie Gustafson
2.5) Another stage cross by brad smith
3)Spoon by Adam Burtona dn Chris O'kiishi
4) White Bread or Believe with me, Danny by Danger Brooks
5)Sick to death by kelli rae powell
6)Cat and Mouse by greg mitchell
7) The BUs Piece by Chris o'kiishi
8) My daddy was a homeless drag queen hooker by Wilma Titzgro
9)Strawberry Milikshakes are yummy in my tummy by mose hayward
10) Bullet bra theory by wilma titzgro
11)_ Spanky by mose hayward
12) A zany, wack-o bothers a less zany wackless couple of poople, oops i mena
people by jamal river
13) Vignettes: lunatic ramblings for the 21st century by james horak
14 tonight by mandi lee
15)I eat my farts and also other people's farts and also there will be a comedy
sketch by chris stangl
16) Watch our inhibitions drop onto the floor and spill onto most of the first
row by james "numb phallus" horak and mike"iron nipples" cassady
 
Here's my question:  Where were the iron nipples? Promised and never
delivered..
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Oct 10, 1998 03:41 from Fanky Maloon
I thought it was an excellent night, tons of pieces and none that completely
blew.  3:41 is well bast the old Bedtime, so no point-by-point for now.
But I thought there was a lot of excellent stuff, and I thought the crowd was
pretty stiff for some reason.  Never seemed to catch their stride I felt, alas.
Still good stuff on stage though, and that's what counts.
 
Oh, but on another note, thank the lawd that heckler shut up after the
announcements.  Anyone have the inside scoop on that?  Did someone decapitate
them, preventing them from making further idiotic commentary when it wasn't
wanted/needed?
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Oct 10, 1998 12:53 from Mose
i have an account! I can talk! I'm no longer mute! whooh! go me! whooh!
I also enjoyed the evening of No Shame Theatre very much last night. Like
Flanky said, nothing completely blew. It was cool to see people trying
different things, like Mandi singing a song and Dan pretending to be black.
Although, Dan's skit was a little offensive, though I'm sure that's not what he
intended. I think, had it been performed by a black person and written by a
black person it would have been kind of funny, it would have come across as an
actual black "character" making fun of certain stereotypes. But in the context
it was performed, it came across as a white guy running through the standard
stereotypes to get a laugh. This made the audience uncomfortable, and when they
did laugh they were laughing because they thought the stereotyping was funny
(they recognized the stereotypes as comments on blacks), which is very
unfortunate. But I do think Dan's intention was noble, and hooray to danay for
trying to do something different. How did the rest of you perceive this?
        I forget what else I wanted to say, but I'll get it down later.
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Oct 10, 1998 16:06 from Edward Bear
I would like to think that Dan was making a statement rather than trying to
entertain.  With the tone he used, and the words he chose, I don't believe the
piece was meant to be laughed at.  I, for one, was taken back, after
half-expecting another creatively humorous piece from him, but my mouth just
dropped and I couldn't speak for the next few pieces.  He really impressed me.
        However, I do have to say that it might have been a bit awkward.  Dan,
coming from a white background, and performing for a predominately white
audience, had a unique view on the role he chose to take.  However, he
displayed the openmindedness that should be taken in that situation.  I
thoroughly enjoyed his piece this week.
        But, then again, my interpretation may be completely wrong, as I am
want to be.  That's my two cents.  I'll step down now.
        The night, overall, was a very good and very tight show.  The
creativity and ingenuity was very strong.  All the performers deserve a good
pat on the back, and a round of shots at the Union.
*plink plink*
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Oct 10, 1998 19:59 from Fanky Maloon
Firstly, I have to say that Mose Blows for referring to me as "Flanky".
Actually, I found it rather funny but simply felt a need to publically display
the rhyme "Mose Blows".  Not that he does, mind you.  I just like the rhyme.
 
I had a good time throughtout the night as previously stated.  But I would like
to touch on a couple in particular that I really liked:
 
Chris Stangl's last piece was one of his best, I thought.  And no, I didn't
think it was funny based on the shock value; I really liked the character
action and idiocy.  I was amused by this piece in the same way I thoroughly
enjoyed a previous Stangl/River piece involving a glass of piss and some
carrots.  "A million and one..."  I really dig Jamal too.
 
On a similar note, that piece of Mose's in which he rants while the two hams
dance was strangely cool.  I don't know of many people that could...or rather
would be able to get up there and hoof it out as those two fellas did.
 
And I definitely got quite a kick out of Adam's piece with the line delivered
by Dan about Donkeyboy and Psycho Chris.  Golden.
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Oct 10, 1998 21:55 from Dan
So it violates a cardinal rule to sit and defend your piece in response to
critique, but I'm going to do it anyway.
"White Bread" was not meant to be offensive and it was not meant to be a simple
listing of stereotypes about blacks. It's part of a longer work that is a
collection of monologues from homeless men begging for quarters. That
particular monologue is delivered by a black man to a young black business man
who he perceives has lost his racial identity. The list of stereotypes are is
his renumeration of what he feels the businessman wants him to be (or perceives
him as being) to justify his turning away from him. It was my visceral response
to hearing my black friends make a delineation between themselves and what they
referred to as "stereotypical" blacks. The idea being that without a segment of
any race marginalizing certain members of their own race, their own
accomplishments do not seem as impressive. And in the play, the role is played
by a black actor.
Look up the performance artist Danny Hoch for my opinion on cross-racial
performance art.
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Oct 11, 1998 00:58 from Thufir
My problem with that piece that Redbird mentioned was that the actor kept
needing to be prompted for lines.  Other than that, it amused me.
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Oct 11, 1998 10:27 from Mose
I have to agree with Fudgey Balloon about the Donkey Boy and Prissy Chris
piece. I've always thought those pieces were cool, because Chris and Adam
sustain interaction really well without looking at each other, it's like they
just know what the other's doing and you can see it in their acting. I saw this
even more so in the last one that they did, I forget when that was.
        Did that make any sense?
        I don't know if I can say this, because I took part in the piece, but i
also really got a kick out of Stangl's Sodomy Skitch. I know you all have
reason to hate him, but he was aprehensive about coming back and I'm glad he
did. For me, it was the funniest skitch of the evening.
        Oh yeah: Dan, like I said, I only took issue with the context of the
presentation of your monologue. I found it to be a very well-written piece
otherwise, and for me your intentions did come through.
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Oct 11, 1998 11:55 from Ender
 
I really enjoyed seeing Chris Stangl on stage Friday night.  He was as
committed to his parts as he ever was, and not once did he pick on the audience
for appreciating it.  And his dancing choices were impressive.  Not to slight
Jamal, who cut a good rug too.  And whose delivery of the "million" and
"million and one" lines was intensely funny and endearing.  I enjoyed how "big"
that was played.  (That was the father/son/boxers piece by Chris Stangl.)
And Jamal's story about the weirdo (poople--I mean people) had a great honest
feel to it, and the direct-address stuff was good.
 
Mose's text for the Spanky piece (where he read while Stangl and Jamal danced--
that was Spanky, yes?  I get lost sometimes) was yet again something I'd like
to read.  It was a good juxtaposition, but I know I missed a lot of it because
I was trying to take  in the active visuals at the same time.  But I got a kick
out of the actor he described who couldn't deliver the line with the word bed
capitalized.  Heh.  Actors.
 
Good to see Greg Mitchell back on stage!  I had no idea butts could do that.
(I leave it to those who didn't attend to wonder what I mean  by that.)  The
horns definitely helped.  And a tastee song, too.   :)
 
Chris Okiishi--bus tease!  That piece slayed me.  He is so wonderfully coy!
 
re: Dan's piece, I thought it was very good, and because I know he puts a lot
of thought into everything he does (he's really sharp), I trusted him with such
a hot topic as racism.  Not to say anyone else didn't trust him per se.  But I
was confident that following the initial racist hamster fiasco, he would do it
right.  (That was Dan's first piece at No Shame, I think--the racist hamster
fiasco.  My title, not his.  Heh..  I wonder if he'll ever post THAT one to the
No Shame web site..)  So I didn't really need the "in defense of" text
provided, but it DID add something for me.  It was good to know where it came
from.  I completely agree that minorities often distance themselves from their
"less acceptable" members in order to mainstream themselves.  I'm glad that
makes you angry, Dan, and it's good to see No Shame used to make a serious
point.
 
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Oct 11, 1998 13:36 from Alethe
About dan's piece-
Iknow what he was trying to do and i think the playscript he created will
accopmlish  that goal.  We, as the audience, were not given a context for the
POV.  I was not sure what take he was giving us.  For a short piece, we need to
be given the set up in order to understand what the artist is tryin got do.  It
makes a completely different piece knwoing that is a monologue to go along iwth
others.  I got lost in the beginning -- I was unsure if dan was the homeless
man, if the homeless man really felt this way orif it was a projection of
someone else's views onto him.  I didn't pick up that he was talking ot another
black man which then made it confusing why and potentially offensive when
thecontent of the piece was revealed.  I was working hard fo rthe money to
figure it out, but I feel like if the circumstances were revealed (not
exposititon extravaganza or anything) more clearly perhaps these
misunderstandings would not have arisen.  the opening setup part went by
quickly and i was still struggling to understand what was going on, so perhaps
i misse dit.  But if the audience is missing it, then intended communication
has broken down, and the exccellent work that is being created can get lost in
the shuffle.  I appreciate the effort to write something different and take on
a topic such as racism, but in order to achieve what i thinkhe was triyng to
do, more attention needs to be paid in the set up so that we can get what is
goin gon.
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Oct 11, 1998 14:51 from Evil Chick
Alethe> Not necessarily, instead of the performer giving the audience a set up
as in "what you are about to see is blah blah blah" the audience needs to be
more open, not just sit there and see Dan and think oh here comes something
funny, no you have to go without preconceptions and then you dont need anyone
to clarify or explain or predigest what you are about to see because you can
decode it yourself.
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Oct 11, 1998 17:31 from Alethe
What I was saying, was i wanted no exposition intro or anything, but they way
the actual script is revealed to us needs to be so in a way to convey to the
audience that you are dealing with, what is going.  I was not sure who he was
supposed to be.  I am pretty sure i am not the only one confused on his point
of view.  What I am saying is htat the script he had may work well in the
context it was written for, but in friday's performance a few things were
unclear to me. I am not saying his piece was not successful. In fact if you
read my last post, i said that the script seemed like it would be successful in
its intended manner.   A part of script development is getting feedback is
knwoing where you lost your audience, all i was saying is htat i was confused
who he was and would stillnot know if he didn't post it in here.  That is
important info. for a playwirhgt to hear, even  if htey decide not to do
anything about it.  I wanted the backround revealed ot me more slowly through
characterization-- things he said ect, i felt like things were coming at me
very quickly and i didn't keep up.  The piece was interesting.  It was good
that it was performed at no shame and i hope this discussion helps dan.
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Oct 11, 1998 17:49 from Ender
 
Alethe has definitely seen Dan do serious theatre, so I doubt that was the
problem.  I imagine she was looking for more cues in the piece itself (WITHOUT
blatant introductory exposition) to let her know what was going on.  The
crucial line did occur fairly early in the piece, though.  I can't quote it
exactly, but it was something like "I am the homeless black man you see
wandering the street doing [blahblahblahetc.]."  If you missed that line,
context is definitely lost.
 
On the other hand, if you hear that line then you are left with a choice.
There are things it is okay for a black man to say to another black man that
are okay, whereas a white man saying it would be in a lot of trouble.  Case in
point--one racially charged term Dan didn't use.  BUT if we really trust a
performer then we can let them "be black" even if they are white to allow them
somewhat inside this bubble of it's-okay-to-say-it-because-you-are-a-member.
If that makes any sense.  So the choice is, do you let the character (a black
man) speak as one black man in these circumstances might speak to another
black man?  Or do you fault the performer (and writer in this case) for not
BEING that character in "real life"?
 
Take any movie you see.  Any TV show.  Any book you read.  Ask yourself if the
writer is the same race as all of the characters.  The same gender.  The same
sexual orientation.  The same temperament.  Unless it's a really bland work
with only one type of character, the answer is "no."  The only difference in
this case is that we could see the words coming out of the writer's mouth
instead of the "appropriately cast" actor's mouth.  Even when dealingwith
touchy subjects that wrestle with racism, the writer is generally of one racial
background writing for both sides.  So Dan, a white man, was writing "the black
side."  It happens all the time.  And he performed it well too.
 
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Oct 11, 1998 18:33 from Ender
 
I thought Elise Gustafson's piece about getting accosted on a bus was well
written.  It was clear the guy was an idiot from the start, and he only got
worse from there.  The way she/her character put up with it all, making fun of
him in the process, let the audience identify with her and laugh at him while
he was too stupid to even know she was making fun of him.  And there was no
doubt about when he crossed the line, but somehow she made that funny too by
exiting.
 
re: Sick to Death, by Kelli Rae Powell..  It was fun figuring out what they
were talking about ("can you hear me?") and why they weren't looking at each
other.  This is the second bathroom piece she's done this semester, isn't it?
 
The Bus, by Satori Snow--Which one was Satori?  Or did the writer not perform?
I enjoyed this piece a lot.  Sound definitely had a stronger presence at this
show than usual (music in this and Mose's piece with the dancing, not to
mention Greg's guitar-and-vocals and Mandi's a capella number).  Some good
moments.  (The man realizing he liked the blue-haired lady better than the
picture, other characters breaking into dance; man realizing it was all in his
head..  And the screaming ending.  Good moments.)
 
Vignettes, by James Horak.  I thought this was a good piece.  An assortment of
funny half-starts tied neatly together at the end.  In general I think "message
pieces" are a little klunky by nature (especially when you spell out the
message at the end), but this one was entertaining and the wrap-up, while
direct, was not as predictable as some and therefore less joltingly redundant
as in many a message piece.
 
And as for the piece he and Mike Cassady wrote (#16 with the long title), it
could have been a simple parody, but it seemed more like they used something
already seen at No Shame as a launching pad on which to write good comedic
material.  It felt like it was all in good fun, and well done too.  I hope
these guys keep coming back.
 
It was definitely cool to see Mandi singing.  Nice voice, and it's always good
to see people branching into new genres.  I can't remember if I've ever had the
guts to sing at No Shame before, but if I did it was accompanied by others,
definitely not alone.
 
"Wilma Titzgro" had unique stage presence.  That could sound like an ambiguous
statement, but it's a compliment.  S/he :) was confident, and memorized, and
only stumbled a couple of times in delivery.  I'm not sure the second piece
added much that the first hadn't already accomplished though (different story,
same format).  Still, it was fun, and there was even a costume change!
 
I think that covers most of the night...  Good show!
 
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Oct 11, 1998 19:07 from Fanky Maloon
My take on the Dan's Piece controversey:
 
It wasn't what I expected, I didn't fully understand it, but I did enjoy it
quite a bit.  I spent some effort attempting to follow the speaker's train of
thought when he was addressing the black nissan driver, but couldn't quite
connect it to what followed by the time he began the main body of his rant.
And so, while I didn't feel as though I knew precisely why he was listing all
of these stereotypical things, I knew that it definitely had something to do
with blaming the nissan driver.  (it was a Nissan, was it not? Perhaps memory
fails, no matter).  Because of this, I didn't think of it as a racist piece for
the most part.  There were moments where it stabbed me and my instantaneous
reaction was "ack! Racism!", but then I'd come back to the context of the piece
and chill out a bit, and try to understand.  But alas, no explanation after the
initial part seemed to come.
Pieces that cause a gut reaction like that are way cool in my book.
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Oct 11, 1998 22:38 from Dan
To backtrack a little, I agree with what Mandi said about the piece not
functioning as well outside of the context of the larger play. I tried to make
it clear, but I think I fell victim to the natural tendency to have things you
write make perfect sense to you and pretty damn flawed sense to everyone else.
The monologue, with play, is easy to follow; without play, though, it needs a
more graceful setup. Good point taken, says I says I.
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Oct 14, 1998 08:44 from Ender
 
Announcement fodder:
 
Beyond Therapy, written by Christopher Durang, opens at Riverside Theatre
Friday night, followed by a reception in the lobby.  Features Sandra DeLuca,
Chad Jacobson, Bari Newport, Doug Dawson, and more!
 
When does Cloud 9 start?  Is anything else going on?
 
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Oct 14, 1998 13:40 from Quicheo
Cloud 9 will start on Thursday, that is , tomorrow.  Good buzz abounds..
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Oct 17, 1998 02:22 from Alethe
the order:
1) Family scene #25 by mose hayward
2) the yalta skit by little jimmy erwin
3) the end by james horak
4) first come, first serve by chris o'kiishi
5) jed and judy johnson and the power of a paper cut
by sarah greer
6) the coolest cambus driver, yet another cmbus piece by kyle lange
6.5) chip in: its an anniversary all right by eric curtis
7) the song thing by jamal river
8) jed and judy again by sarah greer
8.5) bare bones and the conquest of julia's grapefruit orchard under a
brimstone sky by james horak
9) exorcism by ben schmidt
10) mister rubber man by mandi lee
11)grapefruit by greg mitchell
12 ) sacred cows by meghan gogerty
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Oct 17, 1998 03:17 from Thufir
Oops.  I totally forgot about No Shame.  ICON, donchaknow.
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Oct 17, 1998 04:23 from Lord Stave
I think putting the obligatory serious piece at the beginning of the show
tonight was a mistake.  Perhaps it cursed the evening?  Tonight was somewhat of
a disappointment, IMO.  There were a few gems- "Exorcism", "First Come, First
Serve", and especially the Cambus piece were quite good.  But overall I'd say
the show was a letdown.  Thufir could have picked worse nights to miss.
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Oct 17, 1998 12:14 from Fanky Maloon
On the whole I thought it was an okay night...but it did drag.  There were a
lot of pieces, all of which were over 3 minutes (some seemed to be close to 7),
and many could have been shortened a great deal.  There were also two
"two-part" sketches that weren't all bad...but didn't 1) didn't need to be two
sketches (coulda been one 5-minute sketch) and 2) were fairly simple in
premise.  But I'll rant about those in a bit.  It's time for...
the 'laborious detail' rundown.   (I do this 'cause I know as a performer it's
nice to have someone comment on my stuff in any capacity, even if it's just a
line, and figure others appreciate it too)
 
1.  Mose's Family piece - I agree that this one would have worked better later
in the order.  I think it's important that No Shame start off with something
fairly short and fairly zany.  The audience is _pumped_ when the show begins,
and having a serious piece open really does damage to audience enthusiasm.  In
addition, it doesn't give the piece itself a chance - the audience isn't
settled in enough to truly appreciate it.  *picket*  Serious pieces at least 3
or 4 pieces into the order!
 
2.  Jame's Joint smoking communists - this was an absolute hoot.  Smick, James
and Meghan all have loads of stage presence.  Very possibly my favorite of the
night, save maybe one other.  goooooood stuff.  Oh, and Jamal's interlude was
very cool in a "only at No Shame" sorta way.
 
3.  The End by Horak - Took waaaaay too long to get to the "big change-up".
He could have easily cut this piece into one-fourth the length it was.  And
then gone ahead and followed up with the "second" piece he did on the same
subject, cutting that to only two minutes, and it'd have been fairly neat.  But
as it was...this was a one-joke piece...that wound up spanning nearly 10
minutes, split into 5 x 2.  Ack.  Not that it was all bad.  Well performed,
decently scripted.  But definitely bit off more than it (or the audience) could
chew.
 
4.  First Come/ 1st Serve - Definitely delicious.  I guess I still get a kick
out of jokes involving that new Mall.  And of course the character interaction
was eggselent.  Thumbs up!
 
5.  Jed and Judy - The woman in this was quite good, the guy wasn't all that
bad, James was a hoot at the professor...but this was another case of 'shoulda
been shortened to one sketch'.  There just wasn't quite enough substance to
span 10 minutes, I didn't think.  It seems strange to me that people who
haven't performed before (to my knowledge) or who have only performed a few are
writing pieces that span two or three sessions in one evening.  Personally, I'm
always terrified that something I do is going to start to drag with the
audience, and I'll have to speed it up and get out.  I'd be mortified if I ran
into this during a two- or three-part sketch.
 
6.  Cambus - This or Jame's earlier piece were definitely my two favorites of
the evening.  Funny, well performed, memorable, cool.  That guy playing the
cambus driver was an absolute card.  Great, great sketch.  Has this writer
performed before?  I'd like to see more of this stuff.
 
7.  "chip-in"...was this the "test" piece?  It was allright.  The performances
were good, but it was definitely a one-joke piece that dawned on the audience
well before the conclusion to the sketch. Decent.
 
8.  The song thing - it was good to have a musical addition to the evening.  I
really like the way he plays and sings.  Song didn't blow me away, but I did
think it was very cool.
 
9.  (jed/judy pt 2, horak's pt 2 already discussed)  Exorcism - I really liked
this a lot.  I didn't think most of the audience really figured it out, but I
still enjoyed it a great deal.  Good title too.  Makes you think, yesss.
 
10.  Rubberman - I like simple humor, I like stuffed animals, I like funny
voices, it wasn't too long.  I'm easy to please, yes, but Iiiii liked it.
It would have been fun to be in Mose's shoes for this sketch, getting to play
with the toys to Mandi's narration.  I like playin' with toys.  eeee.
 
11.  My Weasel piece - I felt like it was going pretty well and then hit a
dragging point in the middle.  Did I successfully speed through it?
 
12.  Meghan - I liked it a lot, but I felt like by the last several pieces, the
audience was spent and wanted to go home.  I think the audience would have
needed a severe crazy firecracker of a piece to get involved, and that a funny
little ditty about cows, no matter how good, just didn't get them into it.
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Oct 17, 1998 13:56 from Mose
Dude. I also had another piece, called "Creation of Character II," which I
think someone forgot to put in the order post. That's the piece where Lori
played the girl with Aural Herpes (again) and George played the testicular
mother.
I thought it was a great evening. I was entertained. I'm glad Kyle finally got
around to writing, as his Cambus piece was funny and gave him a great excuse to
show off his real talent, which is making funny faces. That guy can make
anything funny.
I agree with most of the points made by Fidgey Baboon. That one piece with
professor dragged like a mother, just because of the writing though.
Well-played. Megan Gogerty was funny, made me wish I'd been around in the old
days. And I loved Fidle Malvoon's creepy story, very creative and entertaining.
And I'm glad J-Mall got up the courage to give his first live performance on
the guitar.
Thanks for the entertainment, people.
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Oct 17, 1998 14:22 from Mose
And where the hell was Danny Boy? The Shame Show needs its token brother.
Incomplete without.
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Oct 17, 1998 17:30 from Alethe
I am soooo sorry mose,
9)  Creation of a character II a sequel to a no shame the atre piece by mose
hayward
i am very sorry if i forgot to post it
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Oct 17, 1998 17:33 from Prufrock
Well, Chris and I were there, so the evening wasn't entirely without people of
color.
 
Once again, Greg has beaten me to the gist punch. Last night was 2 hours of not
that bad that could have been one and a quarter kickass hours. I hope these
people keep coming back- there's lots of promise for next semester.
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Oct 17, 1998 18:49 from Ender
 
re: Jamal's song, that was actually my favorite piece of the night.  I enjoyed
several others ("Hello...  my name is Josef Stalin!", and the AUral herpes
thing, and the crazy weasel bit, and definitely Ben's "piece"--heh) but
I just thought the song worked especially well.
 
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Oct 17, 1998 22:30 from Fanky Maloon
To add to my supposedly complete rundown:
 
I thought the Aural Herpes piece / fly shit/ whatever it was they were doing
was quite a hoot indeed.  George was most excellent.
 
And wasn't there another piece involving the beanie baby?  I thought this was
well scripted and performed, but as with the theme of the evening, went a bit
long for what it had in store for us.
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Oct 19, 1998 11:35 from Lear
yeah, I felt several of those pieces should have been shorter.  I think I
almost fell asleep in a couple.  But that Cambus one woke me up, as well as
the 'masturbation' one where that cute blonde sniffed her fingers.  heh.
 
And both my gf and I have decided that Megan is a spitting image of my
father's sister. :)
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Oct 20, 1998 14:20 from Veener
this was my first time going to no shame and i thought it was pretty
entertaining.  even though my bf said it was a pretty "slow" night, i found a
couple pieces pretty humorous.  i enjoyed the cambus one a lot.  i also thought
the fly shit piece was cute.  and i thought the beanie baby one was really
funny...those two guys are good.  anyway, just my $.02.  for my first time
going, i really did enjoy it though :)
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Oct 24, 1998 13:24 from Alethe
the order
1) frantic romantic by mike "letterman" phillips
2)rash by shirin sadeghi
3) how to ahndle telemarketers part II by james d wolf jr.
4)00-wow and other acceptance speech words
 by kyle lange
4.5) stage cross by brad smith
5) an all girl catholic high school or talk about sexual tension by sarah greer
6) prisoner of his past by kehry lane
7) giving good METAPHOR by mose "mosie" hayward
8) ownership by matt sucharski
9) keith goes east by eric hanson
10) two sides by mandi lee
11
the refridgerator piece by chris okiishi
12) love by the power of grey skull by mike " wonder breasts " cassady
13) People should refrain form writing no shame sketches with reall long titles
which are entirely unrealted to the content because it gives mandi a hard time
when she reads the order and oh yeha this piece is about gatorade by james
horak
14) committing sepuku in eight easy steps by jerry walker
15) songs by ben schmidt
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Oct 24, 1998 13:51 from Mose
I liked Kyle's acceptance speech a lot. The writing wasn't so unique but it was
definitely tight and as always Kyle's delivery was superb. I liked Brad and
Jamal in the bear story, lots of funny facial expression and acting stuff. Made
me giggle.
Chris' fridge piece was awesome. And creepy. One of those stories that's kind
of frustrating because the character is so stupid you just want to kick him in
the head.
And I love closing out the evening with songs. Always good.
Mandi's poems were very interesting, and the delivery from her and the other
actor (Laura?) was emotive without pushing to hard for something.
Except for a few other things I probably forgot to mention, the rest of the
skits were kind of lame in writing and delivery, I was bored a lot. People need
to write shorter sometimes.
My 2 cents. See ya'll next week.
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Oct 24, 1998 16:52 from Alethe
I loved brad smith's stage cross.   short. simple.  and brad's acting is always
so dedicated...it was a solid piece.
I was also a big fan of giing good metaphor.  The movement cracke dme up of
course but the writing was pretty great as well.  i was glad to see mose in the
upstage because it made the attention struggle greater because we would have to
look past him to see the movemnet. heehee
Ownership...i thought this piece had the audience for the first quarter o fit
and then it lost steam.
Keith goes east-- was great !   The writing was hilarious.  brad's struggle
with impossible stage directions was quite a hoot as well.  I think this is
this groups best piece to date.
I really liked the section in gatorade when he was talkingbaout what us in the
"natural ingredients".
i like sarah greer's writing.
i also liked kyle
's piece. it came at a good piont in the show as well.  he can work the crowd.
always a good thing.
frantic romantic was all right.  i thought it went on too long.
i didn't like prisoner of his past.  I took this as a serious movement piece,
and as a serious movement piece i felt as htough his whole body was not
committed to what he was doing.  he was emoting form his face and his hands
butthe rest of his body was not a part of it.  and i felt like there was such
exposition in his movmetn choices.
committing sepuku-  funny premise.  and the ghuy who was the example had a
great physicality and vocal qualities to him, but overall i thouht the piece
dragged.  I remember step 5 ebing announced and i thoguht the piece felt close
to an end.
but it is always good to see new performers trying things out.  Overall, there
were a lot of great moments in the night, and that is always worth a dollar.
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Oct 24, 1998 21:20 from Ender
 
I thought Jim Wolf's piece (didn't he "leave town forever"? Iowa City is a
black hole few can escape) about the telemarketer was a decent idea, but long
long long long long.  I don't know where it fell in terms of five minutes, but
the piece was too long for the payoff to compensate.
 
Sarah Greer's monologue was just great.  Wow.  I'm hoping she's hooked, I want
more.
 
I like the "good metaphor piece" a lot.  It's an unusual format ("two people
moving while guy reads") but it would take me a long time to get bored with it
because the movement is so visually entertaining and the writing is excellent
too.  Hard to miss with that. :)
 
I liked seeing Kyle do something that involved less movement/physical
"wackiness" because I know he does that well, so this was new.  He sold the
character completely even with his feet fairly well planted.  That was cool.
 
Chris' use of the lights in the refrigerator piece was brilliant.  And I
phrased that even before I realized what a bad pun it was.  Kevin's execution
of the lighting up in the booth was also very admirable.  A really good piece.
 
The mime thing--the story just didn't interest me.  And yes, something about
the movement (as Mandi mentioned) could probably have been more engaging, which
would have helped.
 
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Oct 26, 1998 09:38 from Lear
y'all care if some of us wear costumes to No Shame this next weekend? :)
Since various costume events will be going on, and i'll want to see No Shame
without changing inbetween times..
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Oct 26, 1998 10:22 from Ender
 
Actually, there was a costume contest last year, I think.  Or was it the year
before?
 
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Oct 26, 1998 11:44 from Alethe
Wearing costumes is a cool thing by us.  We are not going to have a costume
contest this year however due to its near failure last year.
Ahhh.. last year, when the third place prize was an autograph picture of the no
shame board..heehee
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Oct 26, 1998 13:03 from Ender
 
I still thing that was the best prize..
 
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Oct 26, 1998 15:18 from Whitewolf
 
Depends. What was first prize? Did the winner get to appear in an autographed
picture with the NoShame board, or get to get autographed by the NoShame board,
or what?
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Oct 26, 1998 15:18 from Thufir
The winner gets the ability to say "God that skit SUCKED!" at the top of his or
her lungs whenever a skit, in that person's judgment, has truly sucked.
 
They also get a bushel of rotten tomatoes and a newspaper to read when the show
gets dull.
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Oct 26, 1998 15:29 from Whitewolf
 
Don't you already have that, Greg, without having worn a costume to NO Shame at
any time in the past?
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Oct 26, 1998 15:37 from Thufir
Hmmm.  *scratches beard*  Maybe they thought my clothes were particularly
interesting one year.
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Oct 26, 1998 17:34 from Fanky Maloon
I would agree with most previous posts on the evening as a whole, with a few
additions.
 
I thought Jim Wolf's piece had promise, but egad, couldn't he have quit moving
his arm while reading???  That made him completely unwatchable to me.  And as
someone else pointed out (Adam?), it could have been A Lot Shorter.
 
I actually liked that mime guy somewhat; I thought his movements for some parts
were pretty good.  Bu I thought the Alice in Chains soundtrack was rather
ill-fitted to what he was doing.
 
I thought that the guy who has now done three consecutive "penis/masturbation"
sketches was particularly not funny, especially the third time around.  It was
mildly amusing to have him as an action-figure creep, but still. Way too long,
way too little substance.
 
James Horak in particular had a mystifyingly long piece considering how little
actual material was presented.  He too is entering my list of "repeat
offenders" who have promise, but continue to perform pieces with the same flaws
week by week.  The script was decent enough, but how/why does one spend five
minutes in order to say "Gatorade is made up of strange things that are
probably bad for you and yet we drink it anyway"???  Ack.
 
On the positive side, Chris's door/light piece was very cool and a great idea.
The Stage cross was pretty cool.  The piece about the adventure was quite cool.
Especially the robot bear walk performed by Jamal.  I'm intrigued once again by
Mose's piece involving the script read while crazy people behave oddly in the
background - I liked having Mose up front reading script this time, and thought
that worked better to get the attention away from the crazies a bit.
 
The Samurai piece was mildly entertaining...as a 90 second piece, agonizing as
a 6-minute epic.  It really turned my stomach, pun intended.
 
And the eve ended well with two excellent Ben Schmidt songs, way cool.
 
As a whole, some decent stuff, but a lot of "promising" people performing who
seem to feel as though they must write pieces which take at least 4 minutes,
regardless of content.  Ack.
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Oct 27, 1998 10:12 from KIDDER
No I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
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Oct 27, 1998 13:40 from Alethe
Well, allright then.
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Oct 27, 1998 14:42 from Ender
 
Yeah!
 
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Oct 27, 1998 19:38 from Lord Stave
Couldn't one of the prizes also be a long cane to yank really lame performers
off the stage?  As well as the right to use it?  I think it could be pretty
hot, although it might discourage any newbies from trying their hand onstage.
Still, what price is too high to pay for skits worth watching!
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Oct 28, 1998 07:21 from Ender
 
$1.50.  But since we only ask $1.00 at the door, you have no choice but to take
what you get in exchange.  :)
 
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Oct 28, 1998 09:04 from Ender
 
I'm not 100% sure that even made sense.  Maybe it's time for that cane.
 
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Oct 28, 1998 19:08 from Trouble
 
  Actually, I was kind of wondering which particular Gospel of Jesus Christ
KIDDER was claiming not to be ashamed of?  Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? Or
possibly he was referring to the Gospels of James, Bartholomew, Nicodemus,
Thomas, or Mary Magdalene?  It does matter, because they are all different, and
certainly most people must have been ashamed of the latter 5 I named since they
didn't allow them in the bible...
 
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Oct 28, 1998 20:34 from Dan
I hereby declare the ISCA forum No Shame> to be renamed Obscure Bible Jokes>.
Those who have complaints about this change should Yell> to your SysOp and he
will tell you to stop Complaining>.
Dan>.
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Oct 28, 1998 20:51 from Ender
 
I think jokes that I am too ignernt to unnerstan shouldn't done have been
posted in here.
 
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Oct 28, 1998 20:52 from Alice From Hell
I've been pondering an idea:
Could we get someone to get together the reviews made in here every week and
give them the performers at the next show?
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Oct 28, 1998 23:05 from Ender
 
Anyone could do that.  I think a fair percentage of the performers are already
reading the forum commentary, actually.  I doubt the board would take it on
themselves to hand printouts to performers, but who knows, maybe someone would
want to make up a little "how to get on ISCA" blurb to give to people when they
submit their pieces.  And/or something with the No Shame web site on it
encouraging performers to send their scripts (old and new) to NoShTh@aol.com to
be posted on the web at www.noshame.org.
 
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Oct 28, 1998 23:36 from Alethe
I also don't think that all of the performers necessarily want to hear the
reviews.  Extra pressures and all.  I will try to make a few announcemetns
about it, how to get on isca and all but this part of the board t'ain't willin
to print off copies of much of anything.
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